Frankly, the world as we know it is going away, soon.

[johnlucas]

254. Remember humans are not the only heavily populated species on the planet

We got around 7 billion of us now, right?
And a good portion of that 7 billion have access to technologies that can give off emissions.
But don't we give off emissions even WITHOUT that technology?
I ain't just talking about Carbon Dioxide either (which is an emission good for the plants).
We fart. Our bodies give off heat.
Just us existing pollutes the planet, muriel_volestrangler.

And guess what? We're not the only ones emitting.
There are other species on this planet that are heavily populated & giving off emissions of their own.
Lots of dogs & cats on the planet thanks to their linkup with us.
Lots of cows. Lots of chickens. Lots of pigs.
Put these human-associated animals alongside the other animals & you got a lot of heat signatures & polluting emissions.
THEN the forest fires that ignite every summer. What about the volcanoes? They emit a HELL of a lot & give off a BUNCH of heat.

Remember, we didn't know what the Earth looked like from the outside until the 1950s & 1960s.
We don't know how it looked in 900 AD or 1,500 BC or 100,000 BC.
We have been VERY PRESUMPTUOUS talking about a "normal climate" & "normal temperatures" when the National Weather Service has only been around since 1870.
Normal in comparison to what? What are they basing these norms off of?
I know for damn sure the world they lived in wasn't NEAR the same world as the one from 1,500 BC.
And SURELY not the same as the one from 100,000 BC.

Think about this. That "before" picture of the Earth you put up was from a time when there were LESS emission standards & protocols. When the Industrial Revolution had long put smog in cities as a general rule through their soot-emitting factories.
That picture is from a time when pollution went MORE unchecked.

All we're doing is looking at the satellite pictures from that 1950s/1960s period to now & freaking out because they're so different.
Half a century seeing the Earth from the outside in & we think we know ALL about how the Earth is supposed to manifest.
Floods & famines are a part of Earth's history. The place is just barely stable. That's the only reason how this mold we called life was able to form. Every other planet is too burnt, too frozen, or too choked up with gas storms to support what we know as life.

I am in favor of getting a handle on emissions & pollution for HUMANITY'S sake.
We must build our civilizations more in balance with nature so our civilizations can survive longer.
But none of 'em will last forever. Nothing is forever.
The Earth is gonna do what it do.
Our ability to survive & thrive alone may be giving off the heat.
And then again maybe it doesn't have much to do with us at all.
Human beings are known for their inflated self-importance.

Unless you're willing to live without technology, you are fooling yourself about remedying climate change.
Unless you're willing to stop reproduction, you are fooling yourself about remedying climate change.
And even if you do, that doesn't mean everybody else will.
It's futile worrying about this. The climate is changing. ADAPT!
As the climate changes so should our societies.

Human beings don't control the Earth. We're just a product of it.
Once again in both of those pictures I don't see any human-made buildings, roads, walls, or structures.
I DO see big clods of mud & grass, water & ice.
Our buildings are complicated structures of rock & look no different than the rocks already here when viewed from afar.
We're SMALL man & that's why I know people are getting carried away with this climate change stuff.

Yeah it's changing but maybe just maybe it always has.
John Lucas