Frankly, the world as we know it is going away, soon.

[muriel_volestrangler]

256. The carbond dioxide from fossil fuel burning far outweighs the heat output

from us or any animal. The only emission from animals that is significant is methane from farmed animals, which has been our choice too.

No, we can reconstruct past climates, from various sources such as ice cores, corals or trees. And we KNOW, from these, that the warming over the past century is unprecedented in the past 10,000 years - the time in which we have had a large population we must support through agriculture. The science is settled on this. Please read it.

The picture I put up was in response to your incorrect "you can't see human presence on Earth from space". We can see how thousands of square miles of fields or lakes have been changed. In the case of the Aral Sea, it's been the diversion of water from rivers for irrigation. You need to learn that humans CAN change the planet on a large scale. When you understand that, you'll be able to accept what climate science knows about how carbon dioxide emissions are changing the temperature. It's a red herring to say "I can't see structures"; no-one is arguing that structures are altering climate - it's our activities - burning fossil fuels, cutting down forest, planting rice paddies and breeding methane-producing animals.

Your claim that it is 'futile' worrying about remedying climate change is just wrong. Stop ignoring science. But I see you now say "unless you're willing to live without technology" - which implies you do actually know that technology has been changing the climate, but you're loathe to admit it, because you don't want to change your use of it.