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Withywindle

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42. I'm old enough to remember when WEST VIRGINIA was reliably Dem

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:57 AM

Nov 2020

Because of unions.

And my home state, VA, never went for a Dem from 1964 until 2008, and now it's pretty reliably blue.

States shift around all the time. Demographics change. Economic circumstances change.

We now have a good chance to flip GA, which would have been impossible just a few years ago.

I don't think we should ever give up on any state. I'm still a fan of Howard Dean's 50-state strategy. Even if we can't win, plant seeds, and support grassroots organizers who live there, and candidates for smaller local offices. It will pay off in the future.

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It Just Seems Like Many States Will Forever Be Unreachable By Democratic Presidential Candidates [View all] sfstaxprep Nov 2020 OP

The same as many states would never go red. It's almost tradition to go red in some states Pisces Nov 2020 #1

texas is turning more blue every cycle. drray23 Nov 2020 #2

I think SC is on the menu... AkFemDem Nov 2020 #3

Right. NC and Georgia are moving away from GOP. That's why blm Nov 2020 #28

When they all lose their health insurance DoBotherMe Nov 2020 #4

+2 appalachiablue Nov 2020 #39

We have to start exploiting the gullibility of the GOP base. Buy up media time/ad space, lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #45

The era of massive electoral landslides died in the 90s. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #5

We can't stay this divided forever. marylandblue Nov 2020 #14

It won't be forever... Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #16

Demographics won't save us. The minorities will split too. marylandblue Nov 2020 #33

It won't ever grow to the levels we're seeing now with whites. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #34

Agree. Many PoC are more conservative than radius777 Nov 2020 #37

stop saying pro-life Skittles Nov 2020 #6

SKITTLES! DoBotherMe Nov 2020 #13

Sorry, Pro-Death nt sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #19

anti-choice Skittles Nov 2020 #43

pro-gun, pro-baby jails, pro-COVID, anti-health care - all adds up to PRO-DEATH! lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #46

How about Bettie Nov 2020 #48

If only a couple million Democratic voters from California SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #7

That means we'd have to live in flyover. Codeine Nov 2020 #18

Ha SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #44

We have got to do a much, much better job Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #8

Yes, more outreach DoBotherMe Nov 2020 #17

Covid will help spread liberals to some states. meadowlander Nov 2020 #9

2 young people in the family are doing this, just moved appalachiablue Nov 2020 #40

Not true. Jobs, healthcare, social security,15.00 minimum wage...we find issues. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10

Economic Progressivism. Florida gave us clue, we should learn. marylandblue Nov 2020 #11

One thing this election has taught me is how prevalent racism is Rizen Nov 2020 #12

Yes, They Have Been Coming Out Of The Woodwork Since 2008 sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #22

I think religion is a huge factor. Mariana Nov 2020 #15

You are stretching it to Polly Hennessey Nov 2020 #21

They sure aren't atheists. Mariana Nov 2020 #32

They're Pseudo-Christians sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #25

Only non-Christians support Trump? Mariana Nov 2020 #35

Yip, the cultural-war/education Divide. They see us as patronizing/condescending. UTUSN Nov 2020 #20

It's weird that you put fracking in that list, as if there are single issue fracking voters mathematic Nov 2020 #23

I Only Included Fracking sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #26

LOL. My mother's cousin is a single-issue fracking voter in up-state New York. meadowlander Nov 2020 #41

Forever is a long time. PTWB Nov 2020 #24

Sorry, I Exaggerated sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #27

Sure we are, but it's all part of the process. Remember, the South were all Dems until... TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #29

I wouldn't say forever but for a Jspur Nov 2020 #30

Rearrange the primary schedule to put more swing states in early March. Klaralven Nov 2020 #31

as long as we have vapor ballots instead of paper ballots. mopinko Nov 2020 #36

Nothing is 'forever.' Wednesdays Nov 2020 #38

I'm old enough to remember when WEST VIRGINIA was reliably Dem Withywindle Nov 2020 #42

Educating SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #47

What we need is our own media system and to look for ways to... JHB Nov 2020 #49