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Dark n Stormy Knight

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90. Yep.

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:47 PM

Nov 2020

No one wants to talk about the fact that in many cases we really don't know if the reported vote counts are accurate.

Where I vote, we fill out a paper ballot. We then hand it to someone at a copy/scanner type machine. It appears to scan the ballot. I have no idea what is actually recorded in that apparent scan. No way of knowing if my selections are correctly entered & counted for the candidates I choose.

And the documentary Hacking Democracy showed that software on electronic voting machines (widely R-owned businesses) is proprietary--therefore secret. And I don't trust Rs not to lie, cheat, steal, and even kill to get what they want.

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We Were Wrong About America: John Pavlovitz [View all] edhopper Nov 2020 OP

Very powerfully said, and very, very sad. nt Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #1

Yes to everything he wrote lapfog_1 Nov 2020 #2

Until we address right wing media machine that morphed out of hate radio, CrispyQ Nov 2020 #11

Yes, the RWNJ Ministry of Propaganda needs to be repudiated and dismantled. Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #23

We need to also boycott any state that went overwhelmingly for the turd. not_the_one Nov 2020 #73

I agree. Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #82

+ agree. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #28

absolutely agree. Golfnbrew Nov 2020 #32

this because llashram Nov 2020 #35

The Public News Service jayschool2013 Nov 2020 #41

I said it in 2016, I said it this year and I will keep saying it. Initech Nov 2020 #46

ABSO-FREAKIN'-LUTELY! calimary Nov 2020 #76

Only partly. Jakes Progress Nov 2020 #74

Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine tiredtoo Nov 2020 #75

EXACTLY. AND reinstate the ownership restrictions calimary Nov 2020 #81

So far almost SIX MILLION MORE people voted for the orange POS than last time. CrispyQ Nov 2020 #3

It really is PatSeg Nov 2020 #12

in all fairness - Golfnbrew Nov 2020 #33

Yes, it is. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #92

I realized this when he first won the Republican nomination marylandblue Nov 2020 #4

The problem is they are easily led by authoritarians, not egalitarians. KPN Nov 2020 #21

Excellent article if..fish..had..wings Nov 2020 #5

I read that first thing this morning. AirmensMom Nov 2020 #6

I could have written this. I am thinking the very same thing... Raster Nov 2020 #7

I asked my sibs this morning... Raster Nov 2020 #13

They can't answer that question. He manipulates their emotions without their knowledge. marylandblue Nov 2020 #24

I've been thinking for several years now that our school system should be teaching KS Toronado Nov 2020 #51

But the fact that they don't volstork Nov 2020 #58

Absolutely over 50% in the state of Iowa, of which I'm a resident. I'm utterly bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #14

Very sad PatSeg Nov 2020 #8

Speaking real truth to power there... nt Blasphemer Nov 2020 #9

Methinks the number of blue collar/ service/ need cash next week/etc. voters, who weighed empedocles Nov 2020 #10

I just read about instances within my state of Iowa where people were surveyed bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #16

I've always said that LatinX voters aren't a guaranteed Democratic constituency Lanius Nov 2020 #40

Also once they become citizens, I think they want to put the process LeftInTX Nov 2020 #62

Agree 100% LeftInTX Nov 2020 #63

This is exactly what I heard from numerous family, friends and acquaintances yesterday. KPN Nov 2020 #15

Thank you for that genxlib Nov 2020 #17

Trump has a great feel for America - beauty contests, pro-wrestling, gaudy hotels, "reality" TV Klaralven Nov 2020 #18

It kills me to admit you're right on this chia Nov 2020 #36

I was at a meeting in AC shortly after the Trump Taj Mahal opened Klaralven Nov 2020 #39

There are a handful of family members that are completely dead to me now and I mean it BlueNProud Nov 2020 #19

I have a few "friends" whom I probably Mad_Dem_X Nov 2020 #25

Yes, I found out recently that I have a family member BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #34

Dump is an entirely different animal than say voting for W BlueNProud Nov 2020 #83

I agree--support for Trump in 2020 is far, far worse BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #85

He's said it all. It's a dark day for the USA, frankly. If I'm still alive in 4 years, I Nay Nov 2020 #20

I read this earlier. Bettie Nov 2020 #22

What he describes just confirms what I've suspected all along. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #26

Trump is a racist demagogue and he combined BLM, Antifa, Kamala to great effect. dalton99a Nov 2020 #27

You know, i'm starting to see rhis same story johnnyfins Nov 2020 #29

Yep. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #90

Sobering read, but certainly not untrue... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #30

I grew up in Spain GETPLANING Nov 2020 #31

So sad, but true world wide wally Nov 2020 #37

Yes, but 72 Million of us voted for decency: So we're learning to answer the call. lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #38

Yes it is true, but not the point. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #64

Agreed. Plus, religion blinds us to the problems, the causes, and the solutions. lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #77

How unutterably sad is this recounting? BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #42

I blame most of it on Fox and RW radio. tavernier Nov 2020 #43

Certainly true, but the old "you can lead a horse to water" adage also seems apt. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #44

Damn, so true, so sad RANDYWILDMAN Nov 2020 #45

Yes. cp Nov 2020 #47

It's so sad and depressing, but unfortunately true. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #48

.... Duppers Nov 2020 #49

So sad and dispiriting. bluescribbler Nov 2020 #50

If you think it's better somewhere else, you're wrong. miffelplix Nov 2020 #52

That just tells me it's time to get to work on the next election In It to Win It Nov 2020 #53

We were very wrong Oscarthegreat Nov 2020 #54

How on earth is this a dark day? melody Nov 2020 #55

We were wrong about (approximately) half of America. CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #56

This is what 20+ years of unrelenting 24/7/365 viscously hateful and demonizing hadEnuf Nov 2020 #57

Yes. Organized to play on the fear of losing "their" world to the "other". MarcA Nov 2020 #72

Repeat of Germany in the 1930's. hadEnuf Nov 2020 #88

KnR Hekate Nov 2020 #59

After 2016 Jetheels Nov 2020 #60

Heartbreaking read. cwydro Nov 2020 #61

It is sickening n/t hibbing Nov 2020 #65

Don't back down. We were right. tirebiter Nov 2020 #66

I've said that whoever follows Trump will be even worse... zaj Nov 2020 #67

Guys, consider that an incumbent president has not lost since 1992, Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #68

Amen brother. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #69

Or, as I've been saying for years: Orrex Nov 2020 #70

A higher number of Black & Hispanic Men voted for him too.. whathehell Nov 2020 #71

I'm sorry to say this EveDibb Nov 2020 #78

So we go back to Iron Wall McConnel rickyhall Nov 2020 #79

Asked a few white women why they support this dude tiredtoo Nov 2020 #80

Yup. This is what many of us have finally learned. The Trump gift of our awakening.. LAS14 Nov 2020 #84

K & R sadly LiberalLovinLug Nov 2020 #86

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue moondust Nov 2020 #87

My heart is sad.... Heartstrings Nov 2020 #89

My feelings along the lines that were pointed out go back to 2016. Blue_true Nov 2020 #91

A very well written and emotional piece Yeehah Nov 2020 #93