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meadowlander

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23. Nobody ever taught them how to admit that they are wrong

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:51 PM

Nov 2020

so even the slightest criticism or correction becomes "this person is bashing me!" and then their brain clamps down and they can't accept the message.

Instead of saying "hey, maybe what I said was a little ignorant or insensitive and I should be glad someone pointed it out because it gives me the opportunity to correct it" they go straight to "I can say whatever I want to. This is America."

What I do think we do too often is jump straight to "You're a racist and you need to go away" when sometimes the person is just ignorant or wasn't thinking about what they were saying. We need to take the time with some people to show them why what they said was wrong without making them feel like their identity is being attacked. You know, the sugar and spice version of "you said a very stupid thing, but I don't believe that you fundamentally are a bad or mean person."

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In 2016 my County went 57.4% for Trump. In 2020 it was [View all] Ron Green Nov 2020 OP

I don't know Timewas Nov 2020 #1

I can't just write off 60% of my neighbors and community members as morons. Ron Green Nov 2020 #6

the local town Timewas Nov 2020 #12

They voted for Trump. A second time. How can you NOT think they're morons? Squinch Nov 2020 #21

I believe Biden won Oregon easily so he must have had a winning message. Kaleva Nov 2020 #25

We have to change because there are a lot of dumbasses Squinch Nov 2020 #2

Right on the money. OneBro Nov 2020 #17

Nailed it... SidDithers Nov 2020 #35

You might want to look at election results outside of your county. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #3

Worked a little harder? Ron Green Nov 2020 #34

Oh, look! A voice of reason! (Thank you, TZ!) NurseJackie Nov 2020 #39

maybe the liberals are leaving when they can like they have done JI7 Nov 2020 #4

Maybe it's your county that's the problem. LisaL Nov 2020 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Nov 2020 #7

I think I know, but liberals get angry when I talk about such things. marylandblue Nov 2020 #8

Nobody ever taught them how to admit that they are wrong meadowlander Nov 2020 #23

The problem is that they have conservative authoritarian mindsets. marylandblue Nov 2020 #28

I agree that they're not likely to change. But this is where I live, and where I Ron Green Nov 2020 #30

Good for you. We need to do it. Read "What is Populism" by Jan Werner-Muller marylandblue Nov 2020 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #9

There may be some of that but 45 turned out almost every possible white voter ... LonePirate Nov 2020 #10

Iowa went from 800,000 Trumpers in 2016 to 890,000 in 2020. I am genuinely terrified for bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #11

Its not the Democratic brand that is the problem PatSeg Nov 2020 #13

EXACTLY!!!!!! niyad Nov 2020 #20

Maybe the answer is in the GOP platform they adopted this year misanthrope Nov 2020 #14

LOL. You're funny. Laelth Nov 2020 #18

BINGO! misanthrope Nov 2020 #22

Right wing propaganda is toxic. Right Wing Social Media is toxic. liberalmuse Nov 2020 #15

Well there were a lot of demonstrations in Oregon. I know - Portland - probably not in your county. Jim__ Nov 2020 #16

What the hell are you talking about?! SophieJean Nov 2020 #29

Hmmm... meadowlander Nov 2020 #19

It's not the Democrats who are toxic. yardwork Nov 2020 #24

For a lot of them there is no winning message Bettie Nov 2020 #26

Just Stop trying to Blame the Democrratic Cha Nov 2020 #27

the problem isn't Democrats BainsBane Nov 2020 #31

My county flipped to Biden kcr Nov 2020 #32

It's the right wing media machine budkin Nov 2020 #36

Maybe you need to read the history of the formation your state... SidDithers Nov 2020 #37

Democrats didn't do themselves any favors in that region of the country this summer Azathoth Nov 2020 #38