Frankly, the world as we know it is going away, soon.

[johnlucas]

271. Scientists are human. They CAN & DO get things WRONG

I don't put scientists on a pedestal.
One small flaw can collapse a whole house of cards.
It doesn't matter how delicate & intricate the building of that house of cards was or how long it took.
If there's is one single little flaw all that comes crashing to the ground.

Yeah that proxy data shows that the ice is melting & has melted in different capacities over time. We can see that.
It's still a big jump to say that humans can affect that melting by changing the climate.
That's like saying we change the moon's orbit from our actions on Earth.
That's like saying if all of the human population moved to Asia we can warp the Earth's rotation with our collective weight thus changing the duration of days & nights.

Do you have any idea how small we are?
We do amazing things for such a little species but we ain't all that, man!

Erykah Badu in her song On & On said,
"The man who knows some things knows that he knows nothing at all.
Does it seem colder in your summertime & hotter in your fall?"

Human ego.
Two things that you'll never get a human being to readily say:
"I don't know."
and
"I was wrong."

What's causing the climate to change? I don't know. I'm humble enough to admit that.
But are the scientists willing to admit they were wrong after they invested so much time & effort chasing this theory?

I typed in "when scientists are wrong" & found these articles.
What Happens When Scientists Get It Wrong?
NPR's Ira Flatow interviews science journalist Carl Zimmer. Check out this excerpt.

FLATOW: Does science really work the way we think it does? Is it realistic to expect scientists to drop everything they're doing to replicate a study that they don't like or suspect is not working?

ZIMMER: Well, you know, that is, in theory, what makes science is really powerful is that we don't have to just rely on someone's authority. If someone says hey, I'm a big-shot scientist, you have to believe what I say, you don't have to accept that. You can question their results, and you can try to replicate them and see if you can do it yourself.

And the scientific community can evaluate big ideas. Carl Sagan really put it quite elegantly, as he often does. He said there are many hypotheses in science which are wrong. That's perfectly all right. And the reason was because science is a self-correcting process.

But as you say, it's harder in practice than it is in theory because, you know, it does take a lot of time. And, you know, a lot of people who looked at this arsenic life paper who I spoke to when I was reporting on this, they just, they read the paper, and they could see serious problems with it just looking at the paper itself. And so they were quite confident that it was wrong.

And so a lot of them just said, well, I have better things to do with my time.

UN's climate change scientists admits they got it wrong over claims Himalayan glaciers would have melted by 2035
The head of a UN Climate Change panel retracts disproven & non-fact-checked claim about Himalayan mountains melting by 2035.

Why Scientific Studies Are So Often Wrong: The Streetlight Effect
Article talking about the mistakes in getting caught up in clean numbers that you can track instead of venturing into the un-trackable uncertain.

Scientists who said climate change skeptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague
A scientist saying that the climate change debate was settled at skeptics' chagrin gets disputed by a member of his own team who says that global warming has stopped.

Global Warming: Scientists' Best Predictions May Be Wrong
An oceanographer & earth science professor at Rice University casts doubt on the accuracy of climate change models.

Matt Ridley: When Bad Theories Happen to Good Scientists
Article talks the common human flaw of confirmation bias expressing itself in scientists.

When Scientists Get It Wrong—"The Door to Hell" Burns 40 Years After Being Lit
http://commonsenseconspiracy.com/2012/08/when-scientists-get-it-wrong-the-door-to-hell-burns-40-years-after-being-lit/
This article talks about Soviet geologists in 1971 trying to burn off the natural gas in a cavern from Derweze, Turkmenistan & totally miscalculating the amount of natural gas within that cavern. It's still burning today because of that miscalculation & they now call it the 'Door To Hell'.

The science is settled?
Science is NEVER settled until it locks up with the un-manipulable TRUTH.
Scientists are Truth-SEEKERS. Until they know TRUTH they should keep seeking.
John Lucas