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61. Wampanoag language

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:21 PM

Oct 2012

Last night PBS TV in Denver (KDVR Channel 12) showed a beautiful Independent Lens documentary
titled "We Still Live Here--as Nutayunea". The Wampanoag in Massachusetts were treated badly and even enslaved by the New Englanders. Their famous linguist Jessie Little Doe Baird started in 1993 to help them revive their native language more than a century and seven generations after the last native speaker died. They started with the children and the whole tribe is learning to converse in the language of their ancestors and loving it. Interesting that the children and their families look like "Americans", that is they range from looking "Scandinavian" to "African-American", and every characteristic in between. They might like to make Elizabeth Warren a "relative" who we know will represent them and their interests when she is in the Senate.

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a response from a Wampanoag about the Brown/Warren Indian ancestry controversy [View all] flyingfysh Sep 2012 OP

This DURHAM D Sep 2012 #1

I have William Seger Sep 2012 #5

I know from personal experience that DURHAM D Sep 2012 #6

I've found very little about my grandfather and nothing about my great-grandfather William Seger Sep 2012 #7

I've been researching my great-grandfather in the Oklahoma Dawes Roll records flyingfysh Sep 2012 #11

My grandfather Durham told me that his grandfather SDjack Sep 2012 #26

That's about how Mohawk I am Warpy Sep 2012 #8

Me, too. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #24

Having littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #56

Including me. I believe her. And whether I do or not makes no difference. She knows her heart. nolabear Sep 2012 #2

Agree. And I have a similar story to hers--I have a letter from my late grandmother spooky3 Sep 2012 #4

Mine's quite well documented but you know how people are. They believe what they want or need to. nolabear Sep 2012 #13

Including my son, who is 1/16 Comanchee, but I'll never be able to prove it. His grandmother 1monster Sep 2012 #20

It is my understanding that Scott has been Lying that she Cha Sep 2012 #27

My First Americans heritage abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #3

I'm told ear wax is an indicator, as well n/.t Mopar151 Sep 2012 #10

Really? Man, I've always had that problem. calimary Sep 2012 #31

Well that's interesting. I go through mountains of q-tips. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #37

Not exactly. More of 'asianess' in a very broad sense. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #39

This sounds like a onion piece DiverDave Oct 2012 #41

the honey brown RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #52

Shovel incisors. There's a distinctive shape. aquart Sep 2012 #14

My daughter abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #17

I have those. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #32

that's a great read FirstLight Sep 2012 #33

Common, but not universal, in NA & Asian populations. Rare, but not non-existent, in others. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Kali Oct 2012 #46

kewl littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #58

Probably because the Swedes have some Sami (Mongolian) heritage. Same for some Norwegians diane in sf Oct 2012 #43

Sami MysticLynx Oct 2012 #53

Cool. aquart Oct 2012 #65

Hmm I have shovel-teeth. I'm pretty much as white as you can get, but according to my father Erose999 Oct 2012 #49

shovel shaped incisor, going to check.... littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #57

I've had several haematologists defacto7 Oct 2012 #50

I've got two full NA in my ancestry and show it. She doesn't. But fuck the detractors. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #9

In his weird, confused mind, we're supposed to be upset aquart Sep 2012 #19

I made this. littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #59

Same here... jberryhill Sep 2012 #12

Exactly! This was an issue in my family. AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #48

You and I may be related jberryhill Oct 2012 #64

Interesting. AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #67

I believe Elizabeth Warren and off you this underthematrix Sep 2012 #15

Page not found? aquart Sep 2012 #23

Try this caraher Sep 2012 #25

Scott Brown is making an ass of himself. Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #16

no idea how you even go about proving stuff like this, all i know for sure is i have no NA blood loli phabay Sep 2012 #18

Brown is inferring strongly that American Indians have an advantage over white men like him lunatica Sep 2012 #21

Indeed... MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #29

It's just a Mean Kids thing lolly Sep 2012 #22

puncky nose and high cheek bones lobodons Sep 2012 #28

Another reason so many people have "Cherokee princesses" in their background is it was a little more Brickbat Sep 2012 #30

Not so sure about that MysticLynx Oct 2012 #54

Great opinion piece. Shanti Mama Sep 2012 #34

Do you think Brown thinks Warren should look like the Indian women in the movies? Thinkingabout Sep 2012 #35

I am pretty much as WASP as WASP can get, but even in my family, kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #36

without knowing anything about this, but di NA keep records of stuff you can look at or is a lot of loli phabay Oct 2012 #40

Sometimes you can find people in US census records when they bothered to count NAs, but the names kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #44

Brown's digusting comments AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #42

Pottawatomie here littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #45

I had to look that up, too. Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #47

re:a response from a Wampanoag about the Brown/Warren Indian ancestry controversy allan01 Oct 2012 #51

Almost everyone I know is part Native. How does Brown think this will help him? McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #55

Ifound them! Shovel incisors!! littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #60

Wampanoag language locks Oct 2012 #61

That is ok... littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #63

Didn't mean to post the same info! locks Oct 2012 #62

I, too, have more oral history than a DNA record. boppers Oct 2012 #66