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moonscape

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18. I really hate most propositions. I can't

Reply to former9thward (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:58 AM

Nov 2020

tell you the number of educated people who try to figure out the night before what they are going to vote for. The positions are not obvious, the language can be deceptive, the ramifications can be a surprise, i.e. unintended consequences. The number of propositions we have has gotten out of control and I hate them. Voters lock in decisions they are clueless about and we then are stuck with the consequences.

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What happened to California? Every right wing proposition passed. [View all] former9thward Nov 2020 OP

Don't Blame Me sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #1

I saw that No on 15 ad 4 times during the 30 minutes I spent in a coffee shop the other day. dogknob Nov 2020 #3

I know...it makes me pissed off (still/again). BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #2

Your party for that is going to be, well, weird greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #4

then propositions lapfog_1 Nov 2020 #5

Don't people go this route because the legislature won't take it up? Renew Deal Nov 2020 #30

I think pandemic may have affected the outcome AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #6

Not really, California has a history of opposing higher taxes on these propositions JI7 Nov 2020 #22

What happened to CA right wing initiatives . . . people Nov 2020 #7

I studied these issues carefully - in particular airplaneman Nov 2020 #11

Maybe we minority DU members who are moderates are on to something? GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #8

Well said. DavidDvorkin Nov 2020 #9

Thank you. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #10

OMG, yes to all of this eissa Nov 2020 #12

You're right. We need to.learn from the past 4 years and this election. Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #17

Excellent Post ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #26

Very very well said! Amishman Nov 2020 #27

Perfectly stated. dware Nov 2020 #31

Slight distinction. Bloomberg took votes from Biden here, R B Garr Nov 2020 #13

Because of the TV ads, no means yes and visa versa. Most people are stupid... winstars Nov 2020 #14

Because of the TV ads, no means yes and visa versa. Most people are stupid... winstars Nov 2020 #15

The greedy have to greed. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #16

I really hate most propositions. I can't moonscape Nov 2020 #18

TOTALLY agree, I despise them. I'm sick of having to do the work for the legislature , they're Raine Nov 2020 #20

And we have someone to hold accountable. n/t moonscape Nov 2020 #24

My default vote on propositions is "no" tinrobot Nov 2020 #23

It pays to remember that many people vote their pocketbook, not their moral compass. Sad, but artemisia1 Nov 2020 #19

Raising Property Taxes in California is suicide ansible Nov 2020 #21

the proposition was about commercial property only AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #36

I keep trying to tell you guys, California is not the solid liberal paradise you think it is... Hekate Nov 2020 #25

trump lost RandiFan1290 Nov 2020 #28

I thought I saw someone from the left was happy Renew Deal Nov 2020 #29

Here in the Land of Lincoln BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #32

This is a center left country...it seems even in blue California. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #33

It's about messaging, Lebowski NT BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #34

I would not characterize those propositions as "right wing" Zorro Nov 2020 #35