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TigressDem

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25. Yep -- it is ALREADY been PACKED by the ReThugs. It needs to be UN-Packed.

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:03 PM

Nov 2020

We are REvolting against the dismantling of JUSTICE in the Court System, by looking to make it more representative of the actual PEOPLE who the Court Serves.

IN A DEMOCRACY EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE, up to and including Supreme Court Justices and the President.

They are here to make our society work for the PEOPLE, not for themselves.

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James Clyburn says Democrats lost seats in Congress this year because of calls to'defund police' [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP

Ted Wheeler won re- election in Progressive PDX BlueLucy Nov 2020 #1

There was a substantial (13%) write-in vote for Teressa Raiford gratuitous Nov 2020 #53

There is no doubt the people of Portland want police reform. BlueLucy Nov 2020 #73

The City Council trimmed $15 million from the police budget earlier this year gratuitous Nov 2020 #78

I hope they think about the people in East Multnomah county BlueLucy Nov 2020 #92

We're used to that in my neighborhood; the police aren't very responsive gratuitous Nov 2020 #97

Indeed oswaldactedalone Nov 2020 #2

It always should have been something like 'Reform' or 'Rein In' or the like ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #3

Yes. RE FORM is exactly what is needed. nt TigressDem Nov 2020 #5

Now, was that so hard? Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #11

But that was obvious from the start, however I remember even posters here being attacked for OnDoutside Nov 2020 #94

I agree. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #95

It is a bad phrase, but the process is sound. TigressDem Nov 2020 #4

"Defund the Police" was not a good slogan at all AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #6

Who conveyed bdamomma Nov 2020 #26

Defund the police was a ridiculous idea. Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #7

The IDEA is right, the label is the problem. TigressDem Nov 2020 #21

just like bdamomma Nov 2020 #31

Pretty much every Democrat running for office denounced it. apnu Nov 2020 #35

Yes, it was peggysue2 Nov 2020 #79

Indeed it's a stupid slogan that cost us. nycbos Nov 2020 #8

Republicans lie, most of the Dems who lost seats didn't support "Defund the police"... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #9

Some dems on the left did talk about it. nycbos Nov 2020 #17

But again, why does that matter when the Republicans lie about it? Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #22

Of course not...but you can't say the same things in GA that you can say in NY ...and I would Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #30

Defund the police was a bust in NY/NYC hurt us.. caber09 Nov 2020 #50

I didn't know this...thanks for the information. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #74

You don't remove them. nycbos Nov 2020 #32

Yep add clyburn to the defund police hurt us crowd too.. caber09 Nov 2020 #51

NO - DEMS need to reframe the Narrative to RE FORM the police. TigressDem Nov 2020 #23

First off, BLM is a ground up, grassroots movement, so having them change messaging is going to... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #29

I live in Minneapolis, 10 blocks from Ground Zero of George Floyd's murder. TigressDem Nov 2020 #47

The Majority of police in Minneapolis literally voted in a white supremacist as their Union leader. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #48

The police cheif is a good man. There are others. TigressDem Nov 2020 #61

We know that, but we've got to improve our messaging. yardwork Nov 2020 #27

We don't, their racism is their problem, what we need to do is focus on overcoming their numbers... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #36

Rural and small town population is probably less than the 65 million it was in the 2010 census. Klaralven Nov 2020 #54

True, but that's also because the suburbs themselves were built as white spaces to keep out... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #56

Boy bdamomma Nov 2020 #40

The REAL people to be afraid of are DUMPlings who bring guns to protests and kill people. TigressDem Nov 2020 #57

Defund the police is just the dumbest slogan ever. No one is calling... brush Nov 2020 #63

The BLM movement is grassroots, in addition, the idea and slogan gained popularity out of... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #64

"Ditch killer cops" works for me. brush Nov 2020 #68

That is a losing slogan as well, too many people think of cops as heroes. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #70

Ok, what's your suggestion? brush Nov 2020 #71

First off, ignore the demands of the racist Republicans and police sycophants. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #75

All of that is a given. What's your slogan suggestion? brush Nov 2020 #77

Some like "Restore Police Accountability", trying to keep things within... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #80

Not bad. A shorter word for accountability and you've got something. brush Nov 2020 #83

How about something to put a public flair on it, "Add citizen oversight." Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #85

I get you on that, but slogans to be effective have use short, punchy words... brush Nov 2020 #90

Hold police accountable. scipan Nov 2020 #99

It's part of the game treestar Nov 2020 #87

Just like "pack the court". Fucking stupid framing. tman Nov 2020 #10

Yep -- it is ALREADY been PACKED by the ReThugs. It needs to be UN-Packed. TigressDem Nov 2020 #25

Clyburn said the problem was sloganeering BainsBane Nov 2020 #12

If the only thing a slogan is good for BootinUp Nov 2020 #13

Fortunately the Democratic Senators in the runoff in Georgia are very disciplined, and will still_one Nov 2020 #14

How does Rep. Clyburn propose to control what protesters say? Mariana Nov 2020 #15

HE can't fix anything, but DU could. TigressDem Nov 2020 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #41

AOC was a loud proponent of defunding the police. comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #44

GOP will always slander Yusuf2k7 Nov 2020 #16

True. TigressDem Nov 2020 #34

I don't know why folks were so admitted about keeping that phrasing qazplm135 Nov 2020 #18

I totally agree with him Andy823 Nov 2020 #19

We need to have some seriously fresh thinking on this EarlG Nov 2020 #20

Exactly, in previous cycles it was "partial-birth abortion" and "gay marriage", etc. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #24

Yeah, so imagine US DEMS many college educated and word smiths at times.... TigressDem Nov 2020 #37

No, because simplistic slogans lead to simplistic policies... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #42

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #62

The issue is that we have no control over the message, there is no left wing radio... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #67

Exactly. Well said. OnDoutside Nov 2020 #96

100% EarlG Nov 2020 #69

Perhaps positive messaging rather than negative messaging would be more important... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #72

It just never seems to work EarlG Nov 2020 #82

That's more like a deflection from the question and you may end up painting yourself in a corner.. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #89

Yes, it's a deflection! EarlG Nov 2020 #91

Agree. Every election they lie about and distort our positions and their audiences soak up ooky Nov 2020 #45

I believe he's correct. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #33

Agree. LisaL Nov 2020 #38

I believe he's right. The slogan for that always concerned me. That is exactly why. CousinIT Nov 2020 #39

There is no question about, it almost cost Joe Biden the Presidency too. Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #43

But most of that "rioting and looting" was greatly exaggerated or literally instigated by police. Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #52

Regardless if it was real, fake, or exaggerated, it absolutely caused Democrats to lose votes Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #55

So what should we do, ban protests? Because the Republicans have made their followers believe... Humanist_Activist Nov 2020 #59

The Democratic party needed to do a better job of getting it's message out Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #66

He's spot on. cwydro Nov 2020 #46

it wasnt the message. it was the machines. mopinko Nov 2020 #49

but... but.. AOC said... wyldwolf Nov 2020 #58

...but they do need to be demilitarized. No more buying armored war machines In It to Win It Nov 2020 #60

He's right. It's a totally losing phrase. Rev Al also said R B Garr Nov 2020 #65

He's right. Sugarcoated Nov 2020 #76

Oh my frikking gawd BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #81

Republicans used that against us, I guess. ananda Nov 2020 #84

She was correct when she said that no Dem was in favor of that policy, however, that's not the issue OnDoutside Nov 2020 #98

That always was dumb treestar Nov 2020 #86

The real problem is the unending acts of foolishness called "protests" for historical reasons. gulliver Nov 2020 #88

Protests DO matter and protests DO help BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #100

I'm glad James has said this, and I'd like to see Joe and Kamala hammer down further that there will OnDoutside Nov 2020 #93

Can't believe this basic point, 'defund the police', which so obviously is bad politics - that empedocles Dec 2021 #101