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In reply to the discussion: New Leader Of UK's Green Party: Nuclear Power Is The Betamax Of The Energy World [View all]Turborama
(22,109 posts)errr... OK
Or, it just means there are 3 other people who also only read the subject line and - just like you - totally missed all the other much more important points she was actually making.
I don't want you to "adhere" to anything, I'm just stating a fact that she wasn't likening nuclear power to Betamax in any way other than they should share the same fate.
She didn't compare the two technologies in any other way, even though you are adamantly arguing she did.
Anyone who reads this thread can plainly see that.
Anyway, I stopped talking about that ages ago and have been exposing your determination to ignore anything that threatens your preconcieved ideas (dogma) and dismantling your spurious "Luddite" ad homs aimed at anyone who disagrees with you.
And now you're insisting that at the time of the Luddite revolution the working class didn't exist, they were "just peasants".
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For Katrina Navickas, author of Loyalism & Radicalism in Lancashire 1798-1815, they were working class heroes. Trade unions had been banned in 1800 and here was another way for workers to defend their livelihoods.
There's no doubt that the Luddites have been romanticised, says Dr Emma Griffin, author of A Short History of the British Industrial Revolution. They are thought of as the first workers to destroy their machinery, yet this had been going on for years. What marks the Luddites out was that they were better organised than their predecessors, she says.
But both historians agree that today's use of "Luddite" is wrong. To use the term for someone who ignores Twitter or refuses to move from analogue to digital TV is a complete misrepresentation, says Griffin.
"We use it for people who are hostile to technology, who don't want to get a mobile phone," she says. "But what concerned the Luddites about technology was that it was going to cut their wages."
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Navickas makes a point of correcting people, albeit in a lighthearted way, when she overhears them misusing "Luddite". And yet she is thankful for the frequent sloppy usage, as it keeps these textile workers' memory alive.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17770171
Working class history is generally accepted to begin with the enclosure of English commons, and the generation of paid industrial labor in manufactories in Holland and England.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_class
The process of enclosure began to be a widespread feature of the English agricultural landscape during the 16th century.
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The enclosure movement probably peaked from 1760 to 1832; by the latter date it had essentially completed the destruction of the medieval peasant community.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure
PS the reason I mentioned the golden rule as stated by Confucius is you, "Confusion", attacked her for using a bad analogy but went on to throw Luddite around as an insult, thereby using a bad analogy yourself.
Get it now?
PPS Scribes vs printing press? WTF are you on about now?
Please carry on, this is really amusing, and it's giving me an excuse to read some fascinating articles.