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126. I am 100% sure that I saw a table that listed names, how the voted on one piece

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:11 PM

Nov 2020

of legislation or how the favored the concept and the result for them in the election. The table listen people by name. The policy was either Medicare for All or the Green New Deal, one of the two.

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Ocasio-Cortez Not Sure She Wants to Stay In Politics [View all] babylonsister Nov 2020 OP

We can't become complacent, we have a position we need to defend now ck4829 Nov 2020 #1

Look. I like AOC. And I had hoped she would do the hard work of helping the progressive Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #78

Agree, but terminology! Democrats are the PROGRESSIVE party. Hortensis Nov 2020 #109

I agree...we must support the party. She and others must understand, in order to have majority Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #128

Yes. They won't, though. They're not just anti-progressivism Hortensis Nov 2020 #136

Once Again you Nailed It Me. Nov 2020 #149

+1000000 betsuni Nov 2020 #153

Hillary managed to not be stymied by 'the Hillary treament." ehrnst Nov 2020 #135

Easy for her to say in one of the safest districts in the country. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #2

She could have considered what would have happened if the Progressive was at empedocles Nov 2020 #11

Getting a taste of the beltway life might make her want to become a lobbyists or Boogiemack Nov 2020 #180

+1 grantcart Nov 2020 #17

She gets death threats all of the time Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #19

I am sure she doesn't have adequate security marlakay Nov 2020 #84

So did Obama. So does Nancy. So does Omar. So do most of the Dem former candidates. Boogiemack Nov 2020 #94

The GOP has been destroyed? robbob Nov 2020 #101

1000+ Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #156

Just because she's in a position of power, it doesn't mean she's not a normal person. qdouble Nov 2020 #70

As Congressman Clyburn observed: We lost seats because of Medicare for All and Defund the Police question everything Nov 2020 #95

Really rigorous analysis there. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #175

I'm sure that there are lots of Democrats who would be happy to represent the people of NY 14. N/T lapucelle Nov 2020 #3

News flash AOC, this is America. Wat did you expect. Dream Girl Nov 2020 #4

She's smart and passionate but shes not a House lifer BlueNProud Nov 2020 #5

Wouldn't "making money" be at odds with her world view? Blue_true Nov 2020 #31

Being a progressive is not a sin. qdouble Nov 2020 #71

I am progressive. Did I say being progressive was a sin? My progressivism is grounded in what Blue_true Nov 2020 #74

No one can say with absolutely certainty what can and can't be accomplished politically. qdouble Nov 2020 #76

Putting a man on the Moon took almost a decade, with 100% national consensus Blue_true Nov 2020 #80

Disillusionment with politics is the main reason people don't vote. qdouble Nov 2020 #86

The problem that I have with analysis like yours is you overlook inconvenient realities. Blue_true Nov 2020 #124

I'm not overlooking the reality, Democrats are just unnecessarily cautious. qdouble Nov 2020 #181

yawn Yeehah Nov 2020 #97

She says, as the progressive party wins the presidency and Hortensis Nov 2020 #6

It takes more than great ideas PatSeg Nov 2020 #54

Really good post. It's not that she couldn't be forgiven Hortensis Nov 2020 #91

Yes, youthful mistakes PatSeg Nov 2020 #166

+1000. Again, reminding me of that psychologist specializing in extremist Hortensis Nov 2020 #169

Good lord PatSeg Nov 2020 #170

This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #172

:) Sure to plain good sense, but truth loses the propaganda war Hortensis Nov 2020 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #176

Same regarding yours, CatLady. Hortensis Nov 2020 #178

+++ nt brer cat Nov 2020 #164

PoliticalWire would make that the main takeaway. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #7

How special comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #8

I am not an AOC fan, but if she is unnerved by what she perceives as internally hostile to anything still_one Nov 2020 #9

She feels free to attack Claire McCaskill and the comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #21

Well said still_one Nov 2020 #36

+1 BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #61

Thank you, sir! Cha Nov 2020 #88

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #100

McCaskill started it. NT Celerity Nov 2020 #103

I am sorry. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #157

One of the issues that I see with her worldview is that Blue_true Nov 2020 #37

I agree with your assessment still_one Nov 2020 #38

People with that world view are generally much happier and more effective in ehrnst Nov 2020 #145

True. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #146

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #147

+1000. ehrnst Nov 2020 #139

If I Understand Her Correctly Me. Nov 2020 #150

Kids Today! RobinA Nov 2020 #158

I think more politicians should have her attitude Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #10

Term limits would be a terrible idea. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #13

Seems to me they are quite served by the status quo nt liskddksil Nov 2020 #25

Special interests are served by the money they spend on elections. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #141

I agree - there are already limits treestar Nov 2020 #59

How? Encombants are very difficult to beat because of money Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #104

I think you mean incumbents. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #113

Exactly. Codeine Nov 2020 #118

If it hasn't changed hands in 20 years Codeine Nov 2020 #115

I really, really despise that view. Codeine Nov 2020 #52

I think encombants become too entrenched Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #108

"Become too entrenched" is a statement without a shred of meaning. Codeine Nov 2020 #112

The US Constitution provides a method of term limits that works quite well. Vote. Hekate Nov 2020 #117

I hate the California term limits crap. Codeine Nov 2020 #119

Term limits is one reason California has too many Propositions with BLUE California voting not so JI7 Nov 2020 #161

I like her and think she will have a great future Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #12

I believe that she brings some of the issues from democrats on herself. Blue_true Nov 2020 #41

You have a point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #43

Spanberger was angry because she had a difficult race that didn't need to be difficult. Blue_true Nov 2020 #46

Again you have a point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #47

There is a difference between a leak and a public Tweet. Blue_true Nov 2020 #49

Yes there is Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #51

AOC had names in her Tweet. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #60

Which tweet? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #64

She listed the two South Florida reps that lost, the one in Iowa that lost and Blue_true Nov 2020 #67

Do you have a link? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #79

I don't follow her. I saw the Tweet in a news story. Blue_true Nov 2020 #82

You have a link to the news story? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #83

I found several news articles about the disagreement. Blue_true Nov 2020 #111

Won/lost table? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #116

I am 100% sure that I saw a table that listed names, how the voted on one piece Blue_true Nov 2020 #126

This table? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #132

Yes, that is it. She retweeted it, when I originally saw it, I thought that she did Blue_true Nov 2020 #133

Interesting Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #140

that table is a reply to AOC, not her retweeting it Celerity Nov 2020 #179

Politics is hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #14

As someone else said down thread... lapucelle Nov 2020 #24

Yes. Politics is mostly administrative, despite what one may think going in. ehrnst Nov 2020 #102

Contrary to common belief, MLK actually had very little to do with getting legislation passed StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #154

I'm referring to LBJ telling MLK that MLK being in the streets enabled him to convince ehrnst Nov 2020 #159

That's partly true. Dr. King HELPED LBJ convince legislators but he didn't do it alone StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #167

Thanks for the clarification. ehrnst Nov 2020 #168

Here's a great book StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #171

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #107

She's right. The hostility toward progressives and progressive policies is obvious. nt Autumn Nov 2020 #15

Amen. nt RandiFan1290 Nov 2020 #16

And she's also getting constant threats from the right, as well. Reader Rabbit Nov 2020 #18

The pushback she's gotten on the Green New Deal has been eye-openng NickB79 Nov 2020 #20

Yep. Follow the money... jalan48 Nov 2020 #22

We lost a ton of seats that we should have won Gothmog Nov 2020 #23

Saw it in NC, too. It was poison. octoberlib Nov 2020 #27

The problem is assuming that tactics that win seats in a district like NY 14 lapucelle Nov 2020 #29

These programs can not be sold in anything but very blue districts Gothmog Nov 2020 #34

Confusing a nationally-driven cash cow with a national mandate lapucelle Nov 2020 #45

I didn't see Tony Gonzales attack Green New Deal in San Antonio (media market) LeftInTX Nov 2020 #81

I live in Tx-23 and that was all I saw LostOne4Ever Nov 2020 #93

It is not hostility, it is legitimate questions about how we best accomplish the Blue_true Nov 2020 #42

Please point me out to the discussion on how we can get the things we need? Because I haven't Autumn Nov 2020 #48

The problem is the mechanics of how things are done. Blue_true Nov 2020 #57

Then that problem is something that needs to be addressed. They either get an massive overhaul Autumn Nov 2020 #62

You are looking past the reality that almost half of Americans Blue_true Nov 2020 #66

You are looking past the reality that it is up to Democratic leadership to step up and move on this Autumn Nov 2020 #75

Again. Other than restating the problem, what solutions do you propose, other than Blue_true Nov 2020 #77

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #137

Yeah, it's definitely sad to see the hostility. qdouble Nov 2020 #72

Yes she is. n/t Dagstead Bumwood Nov 2020 #90

AOC said she might quit politics, as some centrist Democrats blame progressives for House losses Gothmog Nov 2020 #26

A great Democrat may have said it best... lapucelle Nov 2020 #33

Can you really accomplish much as 1 of 435 Reps? She could have her own MSNBC show Alhena Nov 2020 #28

Yes PatSeg Nov 2020 #65

The politician that gets everything he or she wants is usually addressed thusly: DFW Nov 2020 #30

Our world and it's people don't have years left. Some people can do the math. nt Autumn Nov 2020 #55

As always DFW, that was very well said PatSeg Nov 2020 #63

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #105

I agree with every point you make, DFW Hekate Nov 2020 #125

Sanders could maybe give Karma13612 Nov 2020 #165

Well said. Owl Nov 2020 #142

Well said n/t Spazito Nov 2020 #152

OK. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #32

Maybe she's not selling the ideas right. gulliver Nov 2020 #35

the only way to guarentee your ideals are never realized is to run away Takket Nov 2020 #39

Maybe there are better ways PatSeg Nov 2020 #58

Such irony about her own use of the word "hostility." R B Garr Nov 2020 #40

A case of unmet expectations? BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #44

It's now up to us as a civic duty to propel.. ananda Nov 2020 #50

The day Biden is announced the winner...and Putin *might* be on the way out too? Baltimike Nov 2020 #53

I think she should explore every Avenue possible if that's what she wants. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #56

She's got to learn how to work behind the scenes. Lars39 Nov 2020 #68

Well... bye. wyldwolf Nov 2020 #69

She's young and needs to give it time mvd Nov 2020 #73

That might be best 4now Nov 2020 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2020 #87

But what would she do? The Polack MSgt Nov 2020 #89

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #92

Not a single Democratic candidate ran on Defund the Police, you are repeating RW talking points Celerity Nov 2020 #121

I live in Kentucky. They tagged Dem candidates with those slogans Wanderlust988 Nov 2020 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Nov 2020 #134

Odd then how James Clyburn himself said that stupid Defund the Police slogan cost us seats Hekate Nov 2020 #130

here is breakdown of the 8 flips, the narrative (solely blame the left) doesn't hold up under strict Celerity Nov 2020 #138

What do her constituents think about that? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #96

"Internal hostility"? Is that like trying to primary Democratic reps outside your district? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2020 #98

When it comes down to post-election analysis... Spazito Nov 2020 #99

That's what she needs to learn.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #106

She should learn from the Independent Curmudgeon from Vermont Codeine Nov 2020 #120

Absolutely correct. NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #122

Maybe she read this. moondust Nov 2020 #110

It's not a big ask for her to realize that she's in a very safe seat, and her loose words hurts Dems OnDoutside Nov 2020 #114

Kick & Rec for the OP & thread that turned out to be a discussion worth having. TY Babylonsister. nt Hekate Nov 2020 #127

I don't mind. tavernier Nov 2020 #129

Maybe she should ask Speaker Pelosi and Hillary Clinton how they managed to stay in politics ehrnst Nov 2020 #131

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #143

That's a shame. I like her voice. joshcryer Nov 2020 #144

"In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party." betsuni Nov 2020 #148

proportional representation systems yield non-binary, multi-party outcomes nt Celerity Nov 2020 #174

AOC should invest in law school. Judging on how well she performed on one of the House panels i feel onetexan Nov 2020 #151

Give me a break. It doesn't happen over night. If she's willing to give up now, Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #155

See ya! nt oasis Nov 2020 #160

Okaybye! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #162

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #163

Understandable, but she has reconsidered and is happy to continue. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #177