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Hugin

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46. Point taken, demmiblue.

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Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:42 AM

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a couple caveats on the promising pzifer vaccine: [View all] unblock Nov 2020 OP

Good points grantcart Nov 2020 #1

Very high for vaccine against a respiratory virus. (if holds upon more data). LisaL Nov 2020 #4

it's fantastic, but the final number might be lower. unblock Nov 2020 #6

Expectantly waiting for scientific peer review soothsayer Nov 2020 #2

In this case there is an independent trial review board Klaralven Nov 2020 #10

Neat soothsayer Nov 2020 #11

This trial is not typical research Steelrolled Nov 2020 #16

Ultra cold temperatures not going to be easy to manage even in America. LisaL Nov 2020 #3

yes. manageable, but not ideal. we can figure this out; many countries will not be able to. unblock Nov 2020 #8

Not that bad Sgent Nov 2020 #20

Dry ice is our friend, and is plentiful. Steelrolled Nov 2020 #23

Actually that level of cold-chain will be difficult without major modifications for small clinics, hlthe2b Nov 2020 #5

republicans might even agree to fund cold storage for pharmacies and doctors offices. unblock Nov 2020 #12

Dry ice shipping boxes. Steelrolled Nov 2020 #32

Few clinics/doctor's offices receive shipments on dry ice. Yes, of course they can, but dry ice hlthe2b Nov 2020 #35

All true, but now the Biden administration can implement a very clear strategy for 3Q21 success Klaralven Nov 2020 #7

False Claims Act Fines: $1,161,001,892 Offences 23 Drug or Safety Violations Fines: $103,840,000 Off soothsayer Nov 2020 #9

killjoy. unblock Nov 2020 #14

soothsayer, you are a saint. Hugin Nov 2020 #18

That Twitter account... ugh. demmiblue Nov 2020 #36

Ouch... But, clock, once a day. Hugin Nov 2020 #41

One can cite the credible sources without amplifying the nutters. demmiblue Nov 2020 #43

Point taken, demmiblue. Hugin Nov 2020 #46

Bottom line, masks will be in fashion for at least a year to come. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #13

I'm confused about a couple of things... Hugin Nov 2020 #15

Clinical trial. LisaL Nov 2020 #17

... Hugin Nov 2020 #31

not entirely sure, but my guess is unblock Nov 2020 #22

Thanks, ub. Hugin Nov 2020 #28

They would almost have to continue the protocols. Hugin Nov 2020 #37

well for whatever reasons, a lot fewer people who got the vaccine got covid unblock Nov 2020 #39

True. So, very true. Hugin Nov 2020 #44

They gave Sgent Nov 2020 #25

There's some numbers to think about. Hugin Nov 2020 #30

However, vaccinations mean less people wearing masks, including those who aren't vaccinated, and Doodley Nov 2020 #19

exactly, that's one of the reasons the real victory doesn't happen until active cases drop unblock Nov 2020 #33

One minor addition - Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #21

that's also encouraging. once they have the vaccine, how easily is it mass-produced? unblock Nov 2020 #26

This vaccine was not part of Warp Speed DrToast Nov 2020 #27

So it hadn't made it into the list of the most promising? Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #29

They chose not to be part of it DrToast Nov 2020 #34

That's probably good news - Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #42

Pfizer "warp speed" agreement with US gov occurred on July 22. Steelrolled Nov 2020 #38

Not sure if that actually happened DrToast Nov 2020 #40

It is not clear to me either Steelrolled Nov 2020 #45

The most important point of caution about this is that Pzifer alone is confirming this malaise Nov 2020 #24