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In reply to the discussion: NYT Reports That Senators Are Working On A Fiscal Cliff Deal — And Paul Krugman Is Already Furious [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)20. "A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security "
Do Not Cut Social Security
September 20, 2012
A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security as part of a deficit reduction deal. "We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit reduction package," the senators said in a letter circulated by Sen. Bernie Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate's No. 3 leader, signed the letter. So did Sens. Mark Begich, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken, who joined Sanders at a Capitol news conference.
Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or to the national debt, the senators said. The program that benefits more than 50 million retirees, widows, widowers, orphans and disabled Americans has a $2.7 trillion surplus and, according to actuaries, will be able to pay every benefit owed to every eligible recipient for the next 21 years.
"Contrary to some claims, Social Security is not the cause of our nation's deficit problem. Not only does the program operate independently, but it is prohibited from borrowing," the letter said. "Even though Social Security operates in a fiscally responsible manner, some still advocate deep benefit cuts and seem convinced that Social Security hands out lavish welfare checks. But Social Security is not welfare. Seniors earned their benefits by working and paying into the system," the letter added.
Social Security has not contributed to deficits because it has a dedicated funding stream. Workers and employers each pay half of a 12.4 percent payroll tax on the first $110,100 of a worker's wages. The tax rate for employees was reduced to 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, but is scheduled to return to 6.2 percent in January.
To read the letter, click here »
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=066FB085-5798-4E6C-ABA2-85549D84DFA6
September 20, 2012
A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security as part of a deficit reduction deal. "We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit reduction package," the senators said in a letter circulated by Sen. Bernie Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate's No. 3 leader, signed the letter. So did Sens. Mark Begich, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken, who joined Sanders at a Capitol news conference.
Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or to the national debt, the senators said. The program that benefits more than 50 million retirees, widows, widowers, orphans and disabled Americans has a $2.7 trillion surplus and, according to actuaries, will be able to pay every benefit owed to every eligible recipient for the next 21 years.
"Contrary to some claims, Social Security is not the cause of our nation's deficit problem. Not only does the program operate independently, but it is prohibited from borrowing," the letter said. "Even though Social Security operates in a fiscally responsible manner, some still advocate deep benefit cuts and seem convinced that Social Security hands out lavish welfare checks. But Social Security is not welfare. Seniors earned their benefits by working and paying into the system," the letter added.
Social Security has not contributed to deficits because it has a dedicated funding stream. Workers and employers each pay half of a 12.4 percent payroll tax on the first $110,100 of a worker's wages. The tax rate for employees was reduced to 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, but is scheduled to return to 6.2 percent in January.
To read the letter, click here »
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=066FB085-5798-4E6C-ABA2-85549D84DFA6
When I see a letter signed by everyone from Harry Reid to Carl Levin to Joe Manchin, I'm thinking nothing is going to happen. Eleven more Senators and that's a filibuster. President Obama cannot change Social Security singlehandedly. That change would have to go through Congress. I doubt there are going to be Democrats, especially those up for re-election in 2014, who are going to put their careers on line.
Paul Ryan's reception by the AARP should be an indication that Social Security is still a political third rail.
Signatories:
Sens. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.)
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NYT Reports That Senators Are Working On A Fiscal Cliff Deal — And Paul Krugman Is Already Furious [View all]
xchrom
Oct 2012
OP
It will finally be time to form viable parties beyond the two corporate offerings...
villager
Oct 2012
#52
The Senate after the election looks to be more democrat, if current events hold.
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#71
HAMMER MEET NAIL. They're already accusing Obama of "stealing $700 BB from Medicare", so how
bullwinkle428
Oct 2012
#18
Krugman is right - the democrats would have to be absolutely insane to deal with the republicans.
Jim__
Oct 2012
#8
Alexander Cockburn was right: He had never seen a President to eager so curry favor
byeya
Oct 2012
#12
No matter the wage level, status, retirement date, all are expected to receive far more in benefits.
dkf
Oct 2012
#22
Riiight. I'll watch food prices skyrocket while I'm told inflation is only 2%-4%
Junkdrawer
Oct 2012
#28
That's why it would be good to have assets that you can make sure keeps up with inflation.
dkf
Oct 2012
#35
Wow the projections I posted showing increasing expenses in Medicare SS and Medicaid assume cuts.
dkf
Oct 2012
#46
^^ This. Looks like someone wants to make this "agreement" seem inevitable before election day.
gkhouston
Oct 2012
#44
imho, they are allowed to make one single change to SS. And only this one.
magical thyme
Oct 2012
#19
"A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security "
ProSense
Oct 2012
#20
It sounds the sequestration/fiscall cliff scenario is going to be undone no matter what...
DCBob
Oct 2012
#29
And far more people who'd have jobs if we didn't all squander it providing socialism for "defense"
villager
Oct 2012
#62
May be. But always glad when there's a chance for us to break bread on the "bigger picture" items!
villager
Oct 2012
#75
My guess is the rumor is a desperate attempt by republicans to get democrats
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#76