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In reply to the discussion: NYT Reports That Senators Are Working On A Fiscal Cliff Deal — And Paul Krugman Is Already Furious [View all]"If Obama changes Social Security, I would support his impeachment."
...the President cannot singlehandedly change Social Security, and he has states his position on Social Security many times.
Obama suggested that Social Security's finances could be "put on more stable footing" in part by raising the cap on taxable income. He dismissed as flatly "not true attacks from Romney on $716 billion in Medicare savings included in the Affordable Care Act (and Paul Ryan's budgets), saying that it "strengthened" the program.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021390402
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021390402
From his DNC speech:
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Now, Im still eager to reach an agreement based on the principles of my bipartisan debt commission. No party has a monopoly on wisdom. No democracy works without compromise. I want to get this done, and we can get it done. But when Governor Romney and his friends in Congress tell us we can somehow lower our deficits by spending trillions more on new tax breaks for the wealthy, well, what did Bill Clinton call it -- you do the arithmetic. (Applause.) You do the math. (Applause.)
I refuse to go along with that and as long as Im President, I never will. (Applause.) I refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaires tax cut. (Applause.)
I refuse to ask students to pay more for college, or kick children out of Head Start programs, or eliminate health insurance for millions of Americans who are poor and elderly or disabled -- all so those with the most can pay less. Im not going along with that. (Applause.)
And I will never -- I will never -- turn Medicare into a voucher. (Applause.) No American should ever have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies. They should retire with the care and the dignity that they have earned. Yes, we will reform and strengthen Medicare for the long haul, but well do it by reducing the cost of health care -- not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more. (Applause.)
And we will keep the promise of Social Security by taking the responsible steps to strengthen it, not by turning it over to Wall Street. (Applause.)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/07/remarks-president-democratic-national-convention
Now, Im still eager to reach an agreement based on the principles of my bipartisan debt commission. No party has a monopoly on wisdom. No democracy works without compromise. I want to get this done, and we can get it done. But when Governor Romney and his friends in Congress tell us we can somehow lower our deficits by spending trillions more on new tax breaks for the wealthy, well, what did Bill Clinton call it -- you do the arithmetic. (Applause.) You do the math. (Applause.)
I refuse to go along with that and as long as Im President, I never will. (Applause.) I refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaires tax cut. (Applause.)
I refuse to ask students to pay more for college, or kick children out of Head Start programs, or eliminate health insurance for millions of Americans who are poor and elderly or disabled -- all so those with the most can pay less. Im not going along with that. (Applause.)
And I will never -- I will never -- turn Medicare into a voucher. (Applause.) No American should ever have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies. They should retire with the care and the dignity that they have earned. Yes, we will reform and strengthen Medicare for the long haul, but well do it by reducing the cost of health care -- not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more. (Applause.)
And we will keep the promise of Social Security by taking the responsible steps to strengthen it, not by turning it over to Wall Street. (Applause.)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/07/remarks-president-democratic-national-convention
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NYT Reports That Senators Are Working On A Fiscal Cliff Deal — And Paul Krugman Is Already Furious [View all]
xchrom
Oct 2012
OP
It will finally be time to form viable parties beyond the two corporate offerings...
villager
Oct 2012
#52
The Senate after the election looks to be more democrat, if current events hold.
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#71
HAMMER MEET NAIL. They're already accusing Obama of "stealing $700 BB from Medicare", so how
bullwinkle428
Oct 2012
#18
Krugman is right - the democrats would have to be absolutely insane to deal with the republicans.
Jim__
Oct 2012
#8
Alexander Cockburn was right: He had never seen a President to eager so curry favor
byeya
Oct 2012
#12
No matter the wage level, status, retirement date, all are expected to receive far more in benefits.
dkf
Oct 2012
#22
Riiight. I'll watch food prices skyrocket while I'm told inflation is only 2%-4%
Junkdrawer
Oct 2012
#28
That's why it would be good to have assets that you can make sure keeps up with inflation.
dkf
Oct 2012
#35
Wow the projections I posted showing increasing expenses in Medicare SS and Medicaid assume cuts.
dkf
Oct 2012
#46
^^ This. Looks like someone wants to make this "agreement" seem inevitable before election day.
gkhouston
Oct 2012
#44
imho, they are allowed to make one single change to SS. And only this one.
magical thyme
Oct 2012
#19
"A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security "
ProSense
Oct 2012
#20
It sounds the sequestration/fiscall cliff scenario is going to be undone no matter what...
DCBob
Oct 2012
#29
And far more people who'd have jobs if we didn't all squander it providing socialism for "defense"
villager
Oct 2012
#62
May be. But always glad when there's a chance for us to break bread on the "bigger picture" items!
villager
Oct 2012
#75
My guess is the rumor is a desperate attempt by republicans to get democrats
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#76