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52. It will finally be time to form viable parties beyond the two corporate offerings...

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Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:36 PM

Oct 2012

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NYT Reports That Senators Are Working On A Fiscal Cliff Deal — And Paul Krugman Is Already Furious [View all] xchrom Oct 2012 OP

If Obama wins and then changes SS and medicare n2doc Oct 2012 #1

Totally agree Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #48

It will finally be time to form viable parties beyond the two corporate offerings... villager Oct 2012 #52

The cuts will happen on a Democratic watch. Remember two lines.... Hotler Oct 2012 #70

The Senate after the election looks to be more democrat, if current events hold. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #71

Here's Krugman's article. pampango Oct 2012 #2

+1 xchrom Oct 2012 #3

+10000 woo me with science Oct 2012 #10

HAMMER MEET NAIL. They're already accusing Obama of "stealing $700 BB from Medicare", so how bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #18

+ 1,000,000,000 WillyT Oct 2012 #33

I don't think Nancy and Harry will allow this to happen. dawg Oct 2012 #4

All eyes should turn to the Senate races.... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #6

So Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake was right.... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #5

We need to know more about this jsr Oct 2012 #7

Krugman is right - the democrats would have to be absolutely insane to deal with the republicans. Jim__ Oct 2012 #8

Alexander Cockburn was right: He had never seen a President to eager so curry favor byeya Oct 2012 #12

+570 Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #14

+100000!! davekriss Oct 2012 #69

Secret meetings in Congress. Silence from the campaigns. woo me with science Oct 2012 #9

Permit me one small edit: Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #55

Well edited. nt woo me with science Oct 2012 #63

K&R Krugman is not the only one who's angry. nt woo me with science Oct 2012 #11

What the hell does SS and Medicare have to do with the deficit?? Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #13

By law, we lent the Treasury the money in the Trust Fund... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #15

No matter the wage level, status, retirement date, all are expected to receive far more in benefits. dkf Oct 2012 #22

LOL: Estimated Benefits....Reality: Catfood money Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #24

Just as long as you understand you are not getting ripped off. dkf Oct 2012 #25

Riiight. I'll watch food prices skyrocket while I'm told inflation is only 2%-4% Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #28

That's why it would be good to have assets that you can make sure keeps up with inflation. dkf Oct 2012 #35

And that's what we thought we had by paying into Social Security. Fawke Em Oct 2012 #53

Well I hope it works out for you. dkf Oct 2012 #65

And you know for sure your plans will work? eridani Oct 2012 #77

I-bonds? Kolesar Oct 2012 #56

Medicare parts B and D are funded 25% by premiums and 75% from income taxes. dkf Oct 2012 #21

Thanks Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #36

How much per year? kentuck Oct 2012 #39

Best info is from Kaiser foundation. dkf Oct 2012 #41

Cannot open file. kentuck Oct 2012 #42

Google MEDICARE SPENDING AND FINANCING 2011 and Kaiser dkf Oct 2012 #45

Wow the projections I posted showing increasing expenses in Medicare SS and Medicaid assume cuts. dkf Oct 2012 #46

That doesn't sound like a huge problem that can't be fixed. kentuck Oct 2012 #47

Medicare part D was a huge give a way to big pharma by the GOP Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #49

Austerity for America! Octafish Oct 2012 #16

Krugman should be pissed, but ProSense Oct 2012 #17

^^ This. Looks like someone wants to make this "agreement" seem inevitable before election day. gkhouston Oct 2012 #44

imho, they are allowed to make one single change to SS. And only this one. magical thyme Oct 2012 #19

"A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security " ProSense Oct 2012 #20

If Obama changes Social Security, I would support his impeachment adigal Oct 2012 #23

But he'll REALLY hate to do it.... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #27

Again, ProSense Oct 2012 #30

Also on the public option zipplewrath Oct 2012 #37

Facts: ProSense Oct 2012 #43

Fact zipplewrath Oct 2012 #78

And His "Place" In History... WillyT Oct 2012 #73

It wouldn't be a "high crime" or "misdemeanor." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #32

Not that surprising RE: Simpson/Bowles....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2012 #26

It sounds the sequestration/fiscall cliff scenario is going to be undone no matter what... DCBob Oct 2012 #29

Sounds like a Karl Rove plan to discourage Democratic voters... Purrfessor Oct 2012 #31

I think this story is real. DCBob Oct 2012 #34

I think so, too.... Purrfessor Oct 2012 #38

Glad the defense contractors don't have to worry. As for people? Fuck 'em. villager Oct 2012 #51

There are quite a few "people" who would worry if they were sent layoff notices. DCBob Oct 2012 #61

And far more people who'd have jobs if we didn't all squander it providing socialism for "defense" villager Oct 2012 #62

true. DCBob Oct 2012 #67

May be. But always glad when there's a chance for us to break bread on the "bigger picture" items! villager Oct 2012 #75

I agree 100%. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #74

This is a real damper on the enthusiasm... kentuck Oct 2012 #40

Let me guess, MadHound Oct 2012 #50

We'll see him compromise just as much in his 2nd term MzNov Oct 2012 #54

The "fiscal cliff" sounds so scary doesn't it? pa28 Oct 2012 #57

Isn't this what Republicans basically wanted? Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #58

K&R WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2012 #59

Kick woo me with science Oct 2012 #60

The hard truth of the matter is that somebody has to bite the bullet... kentuck Oct 2012 #64

My guess is the rumor is a desperate attempt by republicans to get democrats bluestate10 Oct 2012 #76

How about Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #66

kick woo me with science Oct 2012 #68

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #72

Kick woo me with science Oct 2012 #79