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12. Really, and Apple didn't steal the concept of the MAC interface from Xerox, huh? How about the Treo

Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:06 PM

Jan 2012

that was the first real smart phone. PCs for the masses were because of Bill Gates, who made it affordable for the personal user.

No question that Apple took existing ideas, inovated them, and turned them into more usable interfaces for the masses

However, as far as the development environment goes, at least currently, Microsoft is light years ahead of everyone else with the Visual Studio, their .net languages such as C# and respective tools associated with the development environment, Apple doesn't even come close.

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Five years ago today Apple changed the world of smartphones and mobile computing forever. [View all] onehandle Jan 2012 OP

Actually... tledford Jan 2012 #1

LOL! Windows Mobile 6! Yeah, that's the same. onehandle Jan 2012 #2

Facts are SO annoying and get SO much in the way ... tledford Jan 2012 #8

Interpretation of the facts is subjective. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #43

Really, and Apple didn't steal the concept of the MAC interface from Xerox, huh? How about the Treo still_one Jan 2012 #12

BZZZT. Wrong answer!! Gates had NOTHING to do with making PC's affordable for the masses. cliffordu Jan 2012 #15

Technically you are correct about the hardware, but it was the software and development environment still_one Jan 2012 #26

It was Steve Ciarcia, he wrote articles explaining how to build a PC clone bananas Jan 2012 #49

There you go! cliffordu Jan 2012 #88

You know I cannot buy a windows branded computer even today nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #22

Yes I did know that, but it was usable software that made it viable /nt still_one Jan 2012 #27

And windows, by your argument, came from IBM nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #28

Actually it was Kendel with CP/M where IBM and MSFT evolved on the PCs. The transformation occurred still_one Jan 2012 #89

PCs for the masses were because of Phoenix Technologies jmowreader Jan 2012 #31

I do remember the Phoenix BIOS in my sister's AT, 286 nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #32

LOL! iOS is rip-off of PalmOS. jayfish Jan 2012 #45

If that was true, then Palm should have sued Apple... onehandle Jan 2012 #46

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What are you talking about? MattBaggins Jan 2012 #52

I remember that phone! REP Jan 2012 #3

While I was a fan of Windows mobile, all the way to Windows CE nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #11

There is also an Android phone which is NOT a windows device, and a viable alternative /nt still_one Jan 2012 #14

Yeah but I know enough apps that run on apple nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #18

understood /nt still_one Jan 2012 #24

They may be more perception than reality MattBaggins Jan 2012 #54

No, there are no creative writing apps on the android nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #93

Ah yes, Windows CE Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #84

Can you get me one of those? cliffordu Jan 2012 #13

If I told you the guy who invented the refrigerator died, how would you react? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #4

"He's on ice now" REP Jan 2012 #5

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LOL bigwillq Jan 2012 #57

Very Nice we can do it Jan 2012 #6

Apple thanks you for the free ad time. marmar Jan 2012 #7

YES. Because after reading this post I am going to buy an iPhone. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #9

Five years ago? Is that when Apple banned the first app they didn't approve of? Heywood J Jan 2012 #10

self delete cliffordu Jan 2012 #16

Flash? Five years ago, Steve Jobs that Flash was a 'bag of hurt' for mobile. onehandle Jan 2012 #17

You mean the one whose parts I picked because they were made outside the PRC? Heywood J Jan 2012 #19

All phones and computers are made by slave labor in China. MattBaggins Jan 2012 #59

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So you agree that they are not all made in China MattBaggins Jan 2012 #71

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More than aware MattBaggins Jan 2012 #81

two points nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #20

FYI: the plural of "virus" is "viruses" ... Puzzler Jan 2012 #33

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It is not virii MattBaggins Jan 2012 #69

K&R... SidDithers Jan 2012 #23

Good thread. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #25

All hail the Great and Powerful Jobs! downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #29

Actually, I drive a Nissan 350Z and I don't have kids REP Jan 2012 #34

So you have a Blackberry, huh? Joe the Revelator Jan 2012 #36

+1000. closeupready Jan 2012 #42

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I bought arugula at Wal-Mart earlier this evening...just saying. bullwinkle428 Jan 2012 #91

See, that's the problem right there -- arugula used to be a good upper-middle-class marker -- downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #92

I think the Treo was the big leap, 5 years before the iPhone stevenleser Jan 2012 #30

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Yup. REP Jan 2012 #62

You cant point to failed products as great leaps forward stevenleser Jan 2012 #85

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No, I never asserted that. I said that the great leap forward was the Treo nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #87

great marketing eShirl Jan 2012 #35

with aid of Chinese child labor..... bowens43 Jan 2012 #37

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My Samsung Blackjack was working just fine at that time... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #38

iPhone satisfaction at 75%; closest competitor (Samsung) at 47% onehandle Jan 2012 #39

Samsung can take care of itself JCMach1 Jan 2012 #40

Apple's business plan is not market share, but profit share. onehandle Jan 2012 #41

Share price... I know which one I would buy! JCMach1 Jan 2012 #44

Whoops. NPD: iPhone surged, Android slipped in Oct. and Nov. onehandle Jan 2012 #48

How about worlwide sales MattBaggins Jan 2012 #68

Just wait for Samsung to tell Apple to piss off MattBaggins Jan 2012 #67

Apple is a major client, so unlikely. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #90

Oh brother Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #47

Traded my iPhone for a Motorola Atrix (Android) and never looked back. tledford Jan 2012 #61

Yawn... give me back a phone that actually works as a PHONE Steve... ddeclue Jan 2012 #55

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you mean the iPhones where if I hold them funny they lose the signal? ddeclue Jan 2012 #63

When someone ran a red light into my car, I was able to call 911 on my iPhone REP Jan 2012 #64

you are lucky.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #65

Yes. I came close to being killed by an idiot who can't see red (lights or my car) REP Jan 2012 #75

that's the definition of lucky having a working iPhone.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #80

No - walking away from Buick Lucerne vs Nissan 350Z is! REP Jan 2012 #83

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I have close friends who unfortunately do... ddeclue Jan 2012 #74

I have a close friend who was molested by her Blackberry. REP Jan 2012 #76

don't particularly like them either. I've had a Storm I and a Storm II. ddeclue Jan 2012 #78

I'm just teasing you. I am glad you have something you like (for real) REP Jan 2012 #82

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Oh, yeah?! Norrin Radd Jan 2012 #66

Can you play angry brids on that? MattBaggins Jan 2012 #72