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Hamlette

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25. Not me. This is where the fight is and I'll not let them take my country from me.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
Oct 2012

Here's the thing: right or wrong every other contry in the world is insignificant. So you get Canada to oppose a war or feed the sick. Good on you. But if you get America to do that, there will be no war and no hunger.

America needs a conscience and we are it. We need to work, and vote, and tut tut. If we all leave, or a significant number of us do, leaving the country, the most powerful and rich in the world to the likes of Romney and Cheney the world will be at constant war. There will be starving children everywhere. You can't escape it long term. Maybe you won't feel it but your sons will. Stay here and teach them how to fight and feel and care and vote.

Til the last dog dies.

(Yes, I did call every other country in the world insignificant. If you don't believe me I'll tell you a story. I was in college and went to stay with my sister who was living in the dorms at a universtiy in Denmark. The dorms had a better communal atmosphere and layout than dorms here and we'd get together with the local students to talk and eat a couple times a day. I didn't even know if Denmark still had a king but they knew the names of every cabinet member in the US and many Senators and some congresscritters. Even some governors. I asked them why that was and they told me "whatever the US does impacts all of us. Your wars, your economy, your production capacity, your reaction to the environment. All of it. Of course every educated European follows US politics." In Ireland we were talking to a history professor and he got tears in his eyes when he talked about Clinton. And in poland, the young man who gave us a tour of the salt mines compared Bush II to Lach Walesa. Unfavorably. He didn't like either. Both were too conservative and not very bright. He could quote both all day long. Change America you change the world. Run away, you change nothing.)

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Immigration to Canada TrogL Oct 2012 #1
Are they studying French? Last time I looked, there was a strong preference for French speakers. patrice Oct 2012 #2
Not necessary rationalcalgarian Oct 2012 #5
Are you living in Calgary? That's where I live, arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #33
I'm in Edmonton TrogL Oct 2012 #36
In the belly of the beast, as it were rationalcalgarian Oct 2012 #46
No Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #44
Will it help in points? Will it be a plus in other words? mmonk Oct 2012 #50
I have one favor to ask of anyone who gives up on this country and leaves it for another slackmaster Oct 2012 #3
Oh please! lunatica Oct 2012 #6
I'm a moderate asking people not to selfishly put their personal interests over those of my country slackmaster Oct 2012 #7
Thank you for reminding us. Yes we must stand up for our country. southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #26
I've got a favor to ask also. How about you shut your sanctimonious yap? argyl Oct 2012 #16
I'm glad we live in a country where you are free to be so fucking rude without fear of reprisal slackmaster Oct 2012 #18
You really don't have any room to complain given your introduction to this thread. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #20
Who's complaining? slackmaster Oct 2012 #22
i left in 1971 joelz Oct 2012 #30
What nonsense nichomachus Oct 2012 #32
Check & Mate. bvar22 Oct 2012 #38
My ancestors bailed out of Germany in the 1870s and came to the USA for a better life slackmaster Oct 2012 #48
If you weren't fighting greater educational funding in our state, fewer would give up on us CreekDog Oct 2012 #40
Natural-born Canadian workers have been paying into Canada's support system their entire lives slackmaster Oct 2012 #47
BTW, what is your basis for claiming that I'm "fighting greater educational funding in our state?" slackmaster Oct 2012 #49
I hope you have some sort of demonstrable skill or trade education.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #4
Does Canada Just take in anyone who wants to go ? how about things like job, a home etc ? JI7 Oct 2012 #8
What precisely do you think is so different in Canada? I lived there for twenty years. Do believe: ohiosmith Oct 2012 #9
Interesting you should mention that. I worked for a Canadian corporation for five years in the USA. slackmaster Oct 2012 #10
I worked for two Canadian companies. Twenty years in Canada and ten in the states. There was no ohiosmith Oct 2012 #11
I must say that my personal experience with Canadian people is that they are generally nicer slackmaster Oct 2012 #12
I assume that you haven't been to Edmonton! ohiosmith Oct 2012 #14
Hey! TrogL Oct 2012 #37
The educational system is better, and you won't go broke paying for Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #13
It's reasonable for residents/landed immigrants. Not so much for those who do not meet the ohiosmith Oct 2012 #15
Four to five times? Where? Posteritatis Oct 2012 #19
As an example my wife's niece went to the University of Toronto. An Arts and Sciences major ohiosmith Oct 2012 #23
I'm in Nova Scotia and went to school in the Maritimes and Ontario Posteritatis Oct 2012 #27
Interesting! Another example, UBC where my wife attended. ohiosmith Oct 2012 #31
The solution to that is simple. Have the kids go to California illegally for college. slackmaster Oct 2012 #21
But if you gain citizenship, you're golden. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #35
that is true but Whisp Oct 2012 #17
Blah blah alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #24
Not me. This is where the fight is and I'll not let them take my country from me. Hamlette Oct 2012 #25
interesting perspective, thanks nt grasswire Oct 2012 #28
+1 With ya. MerryBlooms Oct 2012 #34
today my teabagger sister said she is claiming her Canadian citizenship grasswire Oct 2012 #29
My dream is to get my daughters to fight all that bullshit right here in America. Throd Oct 2012 #39
Yours is a plea for a civilized country and in that measure, the USA is sliding CreekDog Oct 2012 #41
Now? realFedUp Oct 2012 #42
I think it's a good idea fujiyama Oct 2012 #43
Nice post. It is also easier to stay in touch with friends and family while living abroad than pampango Oct 2012 #45
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