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In reply to the discussion: AOC giving Joe Manchin the death stare over "defund the police" [View all]Demsrule86
(70,679 posts)30. He caucuses with us thus he helps us...again without him, we have no chance for the Senate.
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Sure he is. AOC would get eaten alive in West Virginia. And the slogan "defund the police"
pnwmom
Nov 2020
#13
AOC and other politicians can control their own mouths and tweets. You can support BLM
pnwmom
Nov 2020
#182
it actually goes back long before that, W. E. B. Du Bois, Black Reconstruction in America (1935)
Celerity
Nov 2020
#139
Well, to that end New York City has already "defunded the police", i.e., remove the white...
George II
Nov 2020
#163
Correct. And that will change over time, too. The upper ranks are the people who have been there...
George II
Nov 2020
#165
Even the one that originally insisted on "defund the police" recognizes that what NYC did...
George II
Nov 2020
#61
Exactly, seems like there's a purity-test rush to the furthest left among some, but it kills us in
Alhena
Nov 2020
#68
the main purity test I see is centrists/conservatives (Manchin self-labelled as one) only need apply
Celerity
Nov 2020
#124
strawmen, AOC is not running in WV, she did not campaign on 'defund the police', and she is
Celerity
Nov 2020
#123
I have said many times they need to ditch the dem soc false label, it is my main beef with AOC
Celerity
Nov 2020
#130
AOC is savvy enough that she has been sliding away from it, but Bernie and the (thankfully there are
Celerity
Nov 2020
#138
We are ready for socialism. We have had elements of socialism for over a century.
Cuthbert Allgood
Nov 2020
#190
I already addressed that at length, and yes, she needs to distance herself from it fully
Celerity
Nov 2020
#148
We have a minority in terms of the Senate. We need every Senate seat we can get...a GOP would
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#14
We need his presence or we have no chance for a majority regardless of what happen in Georgia.
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#42
I like Joe Manchin and what some don't get is by saying he will block the court expansion and
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#80
We also get nothing without progressive votes in the house, so best not to alienate them.
vsrazdem
Nov 2020
#64
I guess it is up to them if they want to stop all legislation that is possible. There will have
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#84
He caucuses with us thus he helps us...again without him, we have no chance for the Senate.
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#30
There are no more.I want more too...the only time we had a 60 person majority, the numbers included
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#52
Others would be similar to Manchin if they are in red states. It's the people of the states you
JI7
Nov 2020
#85
It doesn't matter what "defund the police" is INTENDED to mean. It's a terrible slogan,
pnwmom
Nov 2020
#15
In case you haven't noticed, the R's frequently use AOC as their boogeyman, so when she added
pnwmom
Nov 2020
#83
I wish you would present the actual quotes where I said any of that. Thank you!
George II
Nov 2020
#194
Manchin would win more places than the squad would please stop kidding yourself, they cost us...
caber09
Nov 2020
#107
Defunding the police means something very different than what you might think in a red
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#22
I support the fact that he's a Democrat and he wins Senate elections in West Virginia...
George II
Nov 2020
#198
He votes with Trump about 61% of the time. But I see you don't want to say when you support him.
Cuthbert Allgood
Nov 2020
#199
I don't know where that number comes from but 538 says he votes "with" trump 32% of the time....
George II
Nov 2020
#201
Yes, the current Congress. The point was made about how much he votes with trump.
George II
Nov 2020
#225
There are plenty of people who advocate "defund the police" who mean abolish the police
Sapient Donkey
Nov 2020
#104
good thing she did not come up with it, nor campaign on it. Manchin is using a RW bullshit meme
Celerity
Nov 2020
#127
I don't know who came up with it, but she campaigned on it. She refers to it on her campaign website
George II
Nov 2020
#157
She listed a statement on it with additional caveats that flesh it out (that people leave out)
Celerity
Nov 2020
#159
If we lose Joe Manchin, the Georgie seats would not even matter and the new Arizona
Demsrule86
Nov 2020
#16
Sinema is just as conservative and likely to defect on many things a micrometre too far to the left
Celerity
Nov 2020
#140
And so is she. The slogan "defund the police" only works for a narrow slice of educated Americans
pnwmom
Nov 2020
#21
It literally does not mean that. It isn't "un"fund the police, it's "de"fund the police.
Cuthbert Allgood
Nov 2020
#195
We could start by letting people know that defund does not mean eliminate.
Cuthbert Allgood
Nov 2020
#216
Sadly that's the way it is sometimes, or more correctly most of the time. "It is what it is"!
George II
Nov 2020
#56
While I agree with the intent, saying "defund the police" was very shortsighted
relayerbob
Nov 2020
#34
The post your plus oneing has a glaring lie, so you might want to pour it out nt
liskddksil
Nov 2020
#122
LOL! I said no such thing and you know it. What I said was "he speaks the truth."
NurseJackie
Nov 2020
#171
Umm, Manchin voted for Kavenaugh. Check your sources before smearing AOC nt
liskddksil
Nov 2020
#120
Umm, read his post #133 about Manchin's yes vote. It didn't matter at that point. n/t
zackymilly
Nov 2020
#145
The poster's original post said Manchin voted against Kavenaugh and than when I call them
liskddksil
Nov 2020
#174
When the progressive left can win somewhere more competitive than D+20....
brooklynite
Nov 2020
#112
works both ways, when Manchin can win in a Dem primary in an AOC type district, then he can
Celerity
Nov 2020
#131
yes it does, Manchin or a Manchin type would get pummelled in that district against a run
Celerity
Nov 2020
#209
neither of the farthest edges of the Party, not AOC et al, nor Manchin and Henry Cuellar types
Celerity
Nov 2020
#223
try running Manchin or a Manchin type there against a regular NYC left liberal
Celerity
Nov 2020
#208
And she wants do make some drastic changes to stave off devastating climate change
True Dough
Nov 2020
#114
lack of proportional representation will be one of the causes of death listed on the remains
Celerity
Nov 2020
#132