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In reply to the discussion: My dream is probably to get my sons to Canada, [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)38. Check & Mate.
Perfect rebuttal of a bullshit post.
My wife & I came to the same epiphany as the OP in 2004.
We recognized that WE, as Working Class Americans, no longer had representation in our government. We stayed in the US, but sold everything and moved to a very rural area and started growing our own food. Had we known in 2005 that we would be mandated into the arms of the For Profit Health Insurance Cartel,
we would have tried harder to move to a country where access to health care is still considered a Human Right.
Anyone who chooses to move their children to a nation that values the old, traditional Democratic Values enumerated by FDR in 1944 has my respect,
because those values are no longer advanced today's New Democrat Centrist Party.
"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established [font size=3]for allregardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens." --FDER
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens." --FDER
Please note that FDR specified the above as Basic Human RIGHTS to be protected and administered by our Government of the People,
and NOT as Commodities to be sold at a profit to the American people by Private Corporations.
There was a time, not so long ago, when voting FOR The Democrat
was voting FOR the above values.
Sadly, this is no longer true.
--bvar22
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Are they studying French? Last time I looked, there was a strong preference for French speakers.
patrice
Oct 2012
#2
I have one favor to ask of anyone who gives up on this country and leaves it for another
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#3
I'm a moderate asking people not to selfishly put their personal interests over those of my country
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#7
I'm glad we live in a country where you are free to be so fucking rude without fear of reprisal
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#18
You really don't have any room to complain given your introduction to this thread. (nt)
Posteritatis
Oct 2012
#20
My ancestors bailed out of Germany in the 1870s and came to the USA for a better life
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#48
If you weren't fighting greater educational funding in our state, fewer would give up on us
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#40
Natural-born Canadian workers have been paying into Canada's support system their entire lives
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#47
BTW, what is your basis for claiming that I'm "fighting greater educational funding in our state?"
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#49
I hope you have some sort of demonstrable skill or trade education....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Oct 2012
#4
Does Canada Just take in anyone who wants to go ? how about things like job, a home etc ?
JI7
Oct 2012
#8
What precisely do you think is so different in Canada? I lived there for twenty years. Do believe:
ohiosmith
Oct 2012
#9
Interesting you should mention that. I worked for a Canadian corporation for five years in the USA.
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#10
I worked for two Canadian companies. Twenty years in Canada and ten in the states. There was no
ohiosmith
Oct 2012
#11
I must say that my personal experience with Canadian people is that they are generally nicer
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#12
It's reasonable for residents/landed immigrants. Not so much for those who do not meet the
ohiosmith
Oct 2012
#15
As an example my wife's niece went to the University of Toronto. An Arts and Sciences major
ohiosmith
Oct 2012
#23
The solution to that is simple. Have the kids go to California illegally for college.
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#21
Not me. This is where the fight is and I'll not let them take my country from me.
Hamlette
Oct 2012
#25
My dream is to get my daughters to fight all that bullshit right here in America.
Throd
Oct 2012
#39
Yours is a plea for a civilized country and in that measure, the USA is sliding
CreekDog
Oct 2012
#41