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Klaralven

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95. Healthcare has gotten more expensive and I'm not sure it is more equitable either

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:12 PM

Nov 2020

Healthcare expenses have gone from 14 to 18% of GDP, even as GDP has increased. Big pharma, big testing, big specialty care and big health insurance companies are making big bucks. Hospitals have been consolidating into mega-corporations and the expenses associated with the electronic health records initiative have driven doctors out of private practice and into clinic associations. It's a mixed picture at best.

LGBTQ rights is a good example of a polarizing issue, with a small vocal minority for LGBTQ rights, another small vocal minority against them, and a large mostly uninvolved and detached middle that doesn't much care about the issue.

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Remember: No Phony Democrats! [View all] Laelth Nov 2020 OP

Oh, brother! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #1

Only 99.44% pure? Laelth Nov 2020 #4

Sorry to be the one to point this out... but 2020 is much different than 1952. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #14

You don't give yourself enough credit. Laelth Nov 2020 #38

Well... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #42

What you say matters to me, Jackie. Laelth Nov 2020 #46

Thanks. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #49

... mcar Nov 2020 #2

Only on DU can a quote from Harry S. Truman get a facepalm. Laelth Nov 2020 #23

Remember! Control of the committees and even the Squinch Nov 2020 #3

I am not calling for Manchin's resignation ... yet. Laelth Nov 2020 #7

If you DO call for Manchin's resignation, it will be moot as well... brooklynite Nov 2020 #47

Obviously. Laelth Nov 2020 #55

Good. Because we do not lose because of what is wrongly Hortensis Nov 2020 #48

I guess Truman was an idiot then, huh? Laelth Nov 2020 #58

Except you didn't just post his words. MrsCoffee Nov 2020 #71

In the OP, yes. It's 95% Truman's words. Laelth Nov 2020 #76

Indeed. MrsCoffee Nov 2020 #83

:) I bet I have more Truman biographies than you. Hortensis Nov 2020 #74

I admit that I have not read a lot about Truman. Laelth Nov 2020 #79

Agree. :) He's almost too nice for me, actually, but Hortensis Nov 2020 #86

LBJ? Laelth Nov 2020 #94

Are you kidding...we will have a 5050 seat if we win the Georgia seats... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #77

Many of us will suffer GREATLY for the next two years under a divided government. Laelth Nov 2020 #85

You'd suffer less without Manchin? (Hint: No. You wouldn't.) Squinch Nov 2020 #99

Who do you see as phony Dems? n/t Spazito Nov 2020 #5

How about Joe Manchin? dware Nov 2020 #6

How about, I don't like him at all. But if he did not have a "D" after his name, these Georgia Squinch Nov 2020 #11

Really? Spazito Nov 2020 #12

His comments the other day, dware Nov 2020 #15

I love Joe Manchin! He's great! So glad to have him there! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #17

I guess I should clarify myself, dware Nov 2020 #19

So, you are upset with him but don't see him as a "phony Democrat".... Spazito Nov 2020 #25

Correct. dware Nov 2020 #28

I don't think you are alone in that at all... Spazito Nov 2020 #32

Other than the numerical need for his presence, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #27

He may not vote with the Democrats as often as we'd like, but he does so... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #36

I am glad he's there, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #56

Me too Jackie...some here need to read about who was reelected in California on our side and Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #82

Today, I am still grinding my teeth over Joe Manchin's recent remarks. Laelth Nov 2020 #9

So, if I read this correctly, your OP, it is a reminder for the.... Spazito Nov 2020 #20

Only on DU can a quote from Harry S. Truman generate such scrutiny. Laelth Nov 2020 #26

Isn't it great! Spazito Nov 2020 #29

I don't know if I would consider attempting to FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #37

It's Truman's phrase, not mine. Laelth Nov 2020 #41

+10000 Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #80

We used to have a phony dem called Joe Lieberman...and he ran as VP to Al Gore. BComplex Nov 2020 #30

Actually Joe was a Democrat, a conservative Democrat to be sure... Spazito Nov 2020 #35

Seeing as how he spoke at the republican convention for bush the next time around, I'd say BComplex Nov 2020 #39

Well, he was listed as an "Independent Democrat", I believe... Spazito Nov 2020 #45

He changed that FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #65

Ex Democrat is definitely the title he deserves now... Spazito Nov 2020 #69

Lieberman ignored the results of the CT primary and ran AGAINST its candidate. Laelth Nov 2020 #52

and that's why the Democratic Party distanced themselves from him at that time... Spazito Nov 2020 #57

He did caucus with us, yes, but I would have preferred Lamont. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #61

Oh, me too, no argument again from me on that... Spazito Nov 2020 #64

Those things may be true, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #68

Manchin has often made public pronouncement like this... Spazito Nov 2020 #73

Joe Lieberman was primaried and ran as an independent...it is my opinion had we not Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #84

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #51

That definitely seems like a Dixiecrat Dem, the epitome of "phony Dem"... Spazito Nov 2020 #54

He is not a Democrat and has resigned his seat. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #87

We agree on WAY more than we disagree on. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #8

That's quite true. Laelth Nov 2020 #13

I'm totally with you, Laelth! BComplex Nov 2020 #31

Cheers! n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #62

Besides Manchin Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10

I agree, and I am thrilled to see it. Laelth Nov 2020 #16

Yes, I agree with that post! Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #24

Hate to tell you but America is not a liberal country beachbumbob Nov 2020 #18

It's a centrist country. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #21

Actually, it is. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #33

+1 Laelth Nov 2020 #44

Liberal policies are great and we need to do a better job selling the policies...but the reality is Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #88

America still absolutely loves some liberal policies, even if many don't want bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #40

And that is how we win...popular policies without labels...we push them hard. The ACA Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #89

The United States is a BASTION of liberalism. Laelth Nov 2020 #43

It really is not. Look at the Senate and the house races. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #90

on this one i'm right there w ya. mopinko Nov 2020 #22

AMEN! FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #34

Yes! Being in charge is overrated! brooklynite Nov 2020 #50

LOL. Such a realist. So sane. So pragmatic. Laelth Nov 2020 #72

So you're upset because Manchin's opinion is the same as Biden's? brooklynite Nov 2020 #78

My hope is that Biden is flexible. Laelth Nov 2020 #81

Exactly right. If we follow this purity crap, we will lose forever. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #92

Thank you. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #70

"The record the Democratic Party has made in the last 20 years is the greatest political asset" Klaralven Nov 2020 #53

Republicons would like for everyone to forget FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #59

That is on paper...what have we accomplished in the last 20 years ...I would say healthcare Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #93

Healthcare has gotten more expensive and I'm not sure it is more equitable either Klaralven Nov 2020 #95

The fact that we have the ACA is a miracle and if some had President's back, we would Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #98

Partial agreement Silent3 Nov 2020 #60

Yes. Laelth Nov 2020 #63

It pisses me off too, but we'd get even less done... Silent3 Nov 2020 #66

True. As I said above, I don't want Manchin gone. Laelth Nov 2020 #67

Lots of Democrats also opposed FDR's court packing plan -- Nothing new about that Klaralven Nov 2020 #75

Let's start an inquisition!!! NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #91

No one would expect an inquisition! Klaralven Nov 2020 #96

I, personally, am terrified of the comfy chair!!!!NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #97