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Hortensis

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26. The GOP's self-degradation started with the nation shifting
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:22 PM
Nov 2020

more conservative (the mood of the times) and giving Republicans more power because we could no long act as a sufficient check on their more extreme tendencies. As the dominant party, the power tables were turned.

I watched it start with Reagan. The meanness and pivot from growing general prosperity to shrinking it. Mildly aggressive comments at gatherings, like "you're naive," became more common as they became emboldened. And then, as the party leadership became more extreme and ruthless toward the 1990s they turned to overtly hostile lies meant to deepen divisions and harden antagonistic opposition, progressing in this century to the current intense demonizing meant to incite hatred and violence.

So, I believe yes, since late 1970s/1980 a long, increasingly anti-democracy slide that hasn't hit bottom yet. But Reagan wasn't a cause, he was a manifestation of Americans in general tiring of the half-century-long liberal New Deal era and turning to the conservative Republican Party for new solutions.

Also during this period was at least a quadrupling of national wealth, which was channeled into the creation of new centimillionaire and billionaire classes and the creation of a giant new tool for mass manipulation, the internet.

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Republicans will start squealing. They don't want St. Ronnie and their secret applegrove Nov 2020 #1
Yes, yes indeed! BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #2
Republican voters do love their actors. Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #10
The GOP is all about racism and corruption RainCaster Nov 2020 #3
Oh yes for sure. Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2020 #4
Hmm... Mike Nelson Nov 2020 #5
Absolutely. LisaM Nov 2020 #6
Well Ronnie loved to talk about welfare queens driving Caddies (Cadillacs) --racism andym Nov 2020 #7
"Young bucks eating steaks" CharleyDog Nov 2020 #12
Let's not forget his claim that ketchup was a vegetable, so it counted as one in kids' school Nay Nov 2020 #20
Of course. musette_sf Nov 2020 #8
He was a union buster and a hypocrite demosincebirth Nov 2020 #9
It goes back further but Reagan was part of the problem also JI7 Nov 2020 #11
Calvin Coolidge? Polybius Nov 2020 #28
Racism in general but Nixon's southern strategy in regards to the Republican party JI7 Nov 2020 #29
Yes, take a pound of Reagan and add in misanthrope Nov 2020 #13
In many ways, yes. Cult of personality-wise, definitely. Reagan was movies. Trump, reality TV. Solly Mack Nov 2020 #14
Def true about the cult of personality -- remember after his terms that cult members Nay Nov 2020 #22
Oh, yeah. It was sickening. Solly Mack Nov 2020 #23
I remember wanting to throw up in rage. nt Nay Nov 2020 #30
Rotten Ronnie was rotten ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #15
Reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles Nov 2020 #16
Day One of his first presidential campaign: Philadelphia, Mississippi. no_hypocrisy Nov 2020 #17
Nixon and the Southern Strategy DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #18
"If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with." - Gov. Ronald Reagan, 1969 VOX Nov 2020 #19
Failure to punish Raygun for Iran Contra enabled the escalations of Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Trump lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #21
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2020 #24
One difference edhopper Nov 2020 #25
The GOP's self-degradation started with the nation shifting Hortensis Nov 2020 #26
I don't need a documentary to say "yes" to that JHB Nov 2020 #27
The only difference... jcgoldie Nov 2020 #31
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