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andym

(6,063 posts)
6. Trump already has received over 72 million votes, 10 million more than last time so far
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:04 AM
Nov 2020

That suggests he did expand his base, it's just that Joe Biden expanded Hillary's voters more (by over 12 million voters). NO doubt that some of Trump's prior voters voted for Joe this time, so it is likely that Trump expanded the number of people who support him. He grew his cult but lost some of his voters as well. We'll have to see how many Trump voters in 2016 voted for Biden when the final polling is done.

The increases were in favor of Joe Biden, but really the two groups of voters canceled each other out. There was a mini-red wave that canceled out the mini-blue wave of 2018, ultimately costing Democrats seats in the House and many of the toss-up Senate races because Trump brought conservative voters out of the woodwork.

Overall, it seems that 46-47% of the people of this country really like trump, no matter what the conventional polls were saying, there are uncooperative Trump voters out there who like him but are not accounted for in polls. Fortunately, 51-52% liked Biden more!

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45.9 in 2016. roamer65 Nov 2020 #1
Yes. Rounded to 46%. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #2
I am wondering if Joe can make it past 80M votes. roamer65 Nov 2020 #3
I think he does. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #4
We are already at 150M turnout. roamer65 Nov 2020 #5
My rough estimates are telling me there are probably 1.75M votes left in NY. StevieM Nov 2020 #13
Trump already has received over 72 million votes, 10 million more than last time so far andym Nov 2020 #6
He didn't expand his base in terms of overall support of the voting electorate, though. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #7
Hillary didn't expand on Obama's base, because your statement is incorrect andym Nov 2020 #8
You pretty much just proved my point, though. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #9
Also: here's an example: Kerry in 2004 compared to Gore in 2000. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #10
Of course it's a fact that the percentage is the similar, but it is simplistic andym Nov 2020 #11
It's all relative. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #12
I would argue that Kerry did expand his voters andym Nov 2020 #16
You putting qualifiers on everything doesn't help your argument, IMO. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #17
He did not "lose ground in every metric sans one" andym Nov 2020 #18
No, he did. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #19
No matter how confident, you have not proved your point. andym Nov 2020 #20
He never really tried. His whole thing was being purely Republican unblock Nov 2020 #14
Good to know. Cha Nov 2020 #15
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