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95. Progressive is not the same as democratic socialist. Isn't it...

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:12 PM

Nov 2020

a little disingenuous to have outspokenly declared oneself a democratic socialist and then say no one ran on being a democratic socialist?

The whole nation knows she calls herself a democratic socialist. And btw, I know I'm not making new with this, but millions of voters consider "socialism" toxic and repugs know that and weaponize it in attack ads way away from her deep blue district in NY, and away from Vermont too.

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Interesting comment by AOC this morning [View all] Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 OP

That's true. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #1

I think if you check, Spanberger said that the RW took the Defund OnDoutside Nov 2020 #13

She is correct. The ones who won were in safe districts. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #75

The problem is they are flooding the online sphere with the same OnDoutside Nov 2020 #76

the RW has been screaming commie! socialist! since FDR days (and before, going back to Bolshevik Celerity Nov 2020 #85

And it worked !!! Have all your arguments internally, but show a united message out front is really OnDoutside Nov 2020 #90

Again, NO Democrats ran on Defund the Police, no Democrats ran on support of 'antifa' , by which I Celerity Nov 2020 #92

Someone out there is changing the narrative, because OF COURSE no Dems ran on Defund the Police, OnDoutside Nov 2020 #93

most, if not all, of the people actually pushing it are not good faith actors and certainly not Celerity Nov 2020 #94

Frank Luntz was the pumper on that one Wellstone ruled Nov 2020 #43

Defund the police is not a winning strategy lynintenn Nov 2020 #2

It's not a strategy and never was Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #4

Preach it! malaise Nov 2020 #11

Exactly! nt. BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #19

There were signs at at BLM rallies saying "Defund The Police" whathehell Nov 2020 #28

BLM is not an arm of the Democratic Party Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #35

No, but Democratic leaders have publicly (& rightfully).supported them whathehell Nov 2020 #83

True Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #89

I don't see how the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates Mariana Nov 2020 #45

Not just a couple of signs, but an ongoing, publicly discussed meme whathehell Nov 2020 #91

Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats Gothmog Nov 2020 #96

Yes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #97

There was an interview with the NYT also Gothmog Nov 2020 #3

Youth is perhaps liable to over-reaction- dawg day Nov 2020 #18

Actually, she's offended because it doesn't want her Bettie Nov 2020 #29

The party is more welcoming to Republicans than they are to those of us on the Left. Autumn Nov 2020 #36

It is Bettie Nov 2020 #37

Steve Schmidt mrs_p Nov 2020 #42

And then, around here, people get all upset Bettie Nov 2020 #44

Yep mrs_p Nov 2020 #50

I agree that I'm so sick of trying to appeal to "the white working class-mostly-men" dawg day Nov 2020 #62

Ah, but they are going on about how we need "coddling" Bettie Nov 2020 #84

Why do the progressives need all this coddling treestar Nov 2020 #78

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #80

Progressive is not the same as democratic socialist. Isn't it... brush Nov 2020 #95

Does that include challengers? TwilightZone Nov 2020 #5

No Democrat ran on Defund the Police Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #9

Well, it wouldn't have been available as an attack tool... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #15

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #81

Cori Bush did, and won Klaralven Nov 2020 #25

That district has been controlled by Democrats since 1949 trc Nov 2020 #31

Perhaps not, but it means her assertion is false. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #34

Agreed trc Nov 2020 #38

In the age of social media, what happens in one district doesn't stay in one district. Klaralven Nov 2020 #40

Sort of like socialism treestar Nov 2020 #79

The most socialist candidate in the last 20 years was Sarah Palin Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #82

+1000 Celerity Nov 2020 #86

AOC was the star of every Republican attack ad I saw comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #6

Well then, perhaps we should ensure that none of our reps Bettie Nov 2020 #39

Nancy Pelosi was used in ads here too mrs_p Nov 2020 #48

If we look back, EVERY presidential candidate we've ever had has Bettie Nov 2020 #51

If it wasn't her, it would be someone else. Mariana Nov 2020 #49

In my district, the GOP ran a ton of ads attacking Green New Deal and MFA Gothmog Nov 2020 #7

But isn't that her point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #10

Also, even if there isn't an issue with a proposal, they'll fabricate an issue or conspiracy. TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #12

That is because we gave the GOP amno like the Green New Deal and MFA Gothmog Nov 2020 #17

Most voters support MFA at some level Meshuga Nov 2020 #71

You are wrong Gothmog Nov 2020 #72

They allow Republicans for define them Meshuga Nov 2020 #73

sanders was not able to convince Democratic Primary voters to support this program Gothmog Nov 2020 #77

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2020 #8

No Democrat has ever advocated "open borders" to my knowledge either nt Shermann Nov 2020 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #41

Surely she isn't that stupid. kstewart33 Nov 2020 #16

And that's the truth. Here one of the Q nuts ran ads featuring lies about AOC and won. Autumn Nov 2020 #20

AOC has a good heart and mind calguy Nov 2020 #21

She is delusional. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #22

Right on! comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #52

Calling a Democratic Party Representative delusional.. aidbo Nov 2020 #55

She's accused fellow Democrats of much worse than that. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #58

I won't speculate on what she does or doesn't know. aidbo Nov 2020 #59

They didn't vote for him because they were inundated with lying Republican ads... W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #60

We courted Republican voters and we blame good progressives when they vote for republicans. aidbo Nov 2020 #61

You also had """good progressives""" actually running on these same policies lose... W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #63

I'm in ND. As red as can be. mrs_p Nov 2020 #64

Running on strengthening the ACA, increasing the federal minimum wage, etc.... W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #65

Even before Biden was in the lead in PA mrs_p Nov 2020 #69

And unfortunately not even mrs_p Nov 2020 #70

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #88

In itself, a pleasantly worthwhile and sensibly positive statement. Hortensis Nov 2020 #23

Calling yourself a "Democratic Socialist" invites an attack. Raven123 Nov 2020 #24

There were thousands of ads in AZ using "socialist" grantcart Nov 2020 #46

I still don't know the difference between a "Democratic Socialist" comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #53

You have to tell people what you're not saying. gulliver Nov 2020 #26

No one ran on "defund the police" or "socialism" trc Nov 2020 #27

Defund the Police in my area Tree-Hugger Nov 2020 #30

It appears that she initially supported it and is now running from it... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #32

Good catch grantcart Nov 2020 #47

Yet so many of her fans deny she said it. nt comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #54

Interesting n/t Spazito Nov 2020 #68

The GOP knows it's perceptions that matter, not the truth. We need to start yesterday in Ninga Nov 2020 #33

Most did not push back on the idea either, sit on the fence and you can lose. TAKE A POSITION krawhitham Nov 2020 #56

the ideas/slogans were nonetheless tethered to them BainsBane Nov 2020 #57

That may be true, AOC, but races are in large part Sogo Nov 2020 #66

You don't have to be running on it for it to work as a tactic Meowmee Nov 2020 #67

This is a weird comment. Most every major Democrat has never run on open borders, either... Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #74

How do right wing characterizations stick treestar Nov 2020 #87