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175. Disorderly conduct can cover a wide range of offenses

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:45 AM

Oct 2012

Disorderly conduct can include yelling and causing a scene in public, in which case I will try to calm the person down and send them on their way, if they're inside a private business and doing the same thing and refuse to leave upon the owner's request, then, yes, I have to cite them, then send them on their way, if they still refuse to leave, then I have no choice but to arrest them.

No, I'm not unique, there are thousands and thousands of cops out there just like me, but you never hear about them, guess why? Because they don't make for good reading in the news, but the bad ones sure do, it's the old axiom, if it bleeds, it leads. The good cops in this nation far outnumber the bad ones, despite what people may think or the perception the newspapers, news channels project.

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�Oh, shit!� Philadelphia cop sucker punches woman celebrating Latino heritage (w-Video) [View all] kpete Oct 2012 OP

Wow. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #1

HERE. I took a screenshot... JaneyVee Oct 2012 #31

This is why police want it to be illegal to film them. porphyrian Oct 2012 #43

Except it wasn't that woman who threw the water. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #48

I think the woman threw water, it just wasn't the water that hit the cop. porphyrian Oct 2012 #58

Yeah... sendero Oct 2012 #103

I don't think the cop acted appropriately at all. porphyrian Oct 2012 #104

Anytime you start the sentence... "I'm not excusing his behavior, but..." you know your argument has Romulox Oct 2012 #115

Look, I didn't piss in your fucking Wheaties. porphyrian Oct 2012 #127

You posted something that is clearly incorrect. Gutter mouth won't fix anything. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #134

You're 100% WRONG on the law, here. Battery on a cop doesn't make a revenge beating legal. Romulox Oct 2012 #114

Correct, for a cop or a citizen obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #117

Simmer down, Hoss. porphyrian Oct 2012 #126

You were WRONG. Deal with it. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #133

Actually, you ARE wrong, to the extent you are doubling down on your previous erroneous post. Romulox Oct 2012 #135

It's firin' time! And maybe civil lawsuit time. randome Oct 2012 #2

Believe me, she'll be the one charged with assault Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #3

They will lose, and lose badly. That cop assumed because she had a water bottle in her hand, Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #12

Yep, that pig is fucked... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #14

And that is why I have a problem supporting police unions. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #15

Norm Stamper (former chief of police in Seattle) has the same problems. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #38

They just think it's cool to rail against authority using the word 'pig'. randome Oct 2012 #51

Uh, NO, police unions are QUITE different from practically ALL other unions. Zalatix Oct 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #88

FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE. Not exactly a labour union. TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #161

Retired Philly Police Captain Ray Leewis thinks so, too. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #91

Prove it. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #96

You got exactly nothing, and I did. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #106

I pray that she gets rich and it comes out of HIS PUNK ASS POCKETS!! That's a punk ass move uponit7771 Oct 2012 #20

I just saw a crime committed, and it wasn't by that woman. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #4

this is why I give money to the ACLU... n/t a geek named Bob Oct 2012 #80

Exactly. Arrest that fucker. Vattel Oct 2012 #125

One small problem matt819 Oct 2012 #5

I didn't see her throw any water. Th1onein Oct 2012 #6

Actually it kinda does matter if she threw the water tularetom Oct 2012 #46

I have been friends with some of the good cops. Vattel Oct 2012 #128

No, someone behind her on the sidewalk threw the water, that was assault SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #7

and if she did spray him with water he still should not punch her. SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #8

Exactly obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #41

Throwing water aint assault DiverDave Oct 2012 #69

You're right- it's battery. dems_rightnow Oct 2012 #74

Its WATER for fucks sake DiverDave Oct 2012 #142

What injury did the cop suffer from what amounted to a few raindrops?... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #162

You're correct glacierbay Oct 2012 #118

I saw the same thing play at FULL SCREEN DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #90

it looked like shanti Oct 2012 #9

It probably occurred to him - a bit too late - Mariana Oct 2012 #123

At the 2 second mark, you can see the guy in black throwing the water. phleshdef Oct 2012 #10

whenever any police group calls for money........... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #11

Someone on the sidewalk threw the water. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #29

But didn't you know? All cops do is rescue kittens! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #13

Or it's possible that any large grouping of people 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #27

Funny how those competent and coolheaded individuals never step in.. RedCappedBandit Oct 2012 #76

Or perhaps "water thrown on cop: police respond reasonably and everyone goes home happy" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #78

My post had to do with RedCappedBandit Oct 2012 #93

So what would the story be if the good cops 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #113

How about: Mariana Oct 2012 #124

He was also a supervisor, as his white uniform shirt shows obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #119

Similarly, a 'man robs bank' story never talks about each day that he got up and didn't rob a bank. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #102

It's not the proportions of saints and sinners. TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #159

Disgusting. n/t DLevine Oct 2012 #16

Outrageous - but I'm pretty sure she *did* throw water jsmirman Oct 2012 #17

Ok, she was definitely throwing water jsmirman Oct 2012 #18

NOPE, NOT AT ALL!! Here hand going up and down does NOT mean she threw water on the cops, nope... uponit7771 Oct 2012 #22

Please see reply #24 jsmirman Oct 2012 #25

She was most definitely NOT the one throwing the water... truebrit71 Oct 2012 #53

Everyone else in this thread has acknowledged that I am correct jsmirman Oct 2012 #61

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Th1onein Oct 2012 #95

Post #73. randome Oct 2012 #97

Yep, it's silly string. This cop needs to be jailed. Th1onein Oct 2012 #100

What video are you watching? HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #23

I'm sorry, but you are simply not correct jsmirman Oct 2012 #24

No, the water is thrown by someone in a longsleeve black shirt, not her. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #28

Argh - they are both throwing water jsmirman Oct 2012 #35

OK, I do see what you're talking about. But the punch didn't occur until JaneyVee Oct 2012 #42

Thank you. That's all I'm saying - indeed, the punch is beyond comprehension jsmirman Oct 2012 #45

Exactly. They're not supposed to be a gang, they are trained in non-violent restraint. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #52

Yes, if they're being trained that punching a small woman in the face is the jsmirman Oct 2012 #57

No, he didn't have to say stop, you're under arrest. glacierbay Oct 2012 #120

Then you'd be broke because SHE DID NOT THROW IT!!! HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #34

You can keep saying that and you'll still be wrong. Two people threw water. jsmirman Oct 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author JoePhilly Oct 2012 #36

Dammit, that is incorrect. I initially thought her left hand was empty as well. It's not. jsmirman Oct 2012 #40

Sorry ... yep .. you are right ... I've gone around the web looking at various versions of it ... JoePhilly Oct 2012 #49

Yep, thanks. A punch in the face as a means of subduing jsmirman Oct 2012 #56

The cop probably has anger issues. randome Oct 2012 #62

I wish they wouldn't have done it. Still, bizarre anger issues jsmirman Oct 2012 #65

And if he's in a supervisory role, as some have said, he especially belongs in some other job. randome Oct 2012 #67

Personally, I think he needs some time "not being a cop" jsmirman Oct 2012 #71

See my post #60 ... I did an image capture of the point at which she throws the water. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #64

I saw that - thanks for making it jsmirman Oct 2012 #66

And the cops clearly don't react to it NickB79 Oct 2012 #55

the video actually begins with her in the act of throwing the water TorchTheWitch Oct 2012 #131

The water was clearly coming from behind the women JaneyVee Oct 2012 #26

She threw some. But it did not make it to the cop who attacked her. ieoeja Oct 2012 #33

It doesn't matter. NOT the legally operative fact here. nt Romulox Oct 2012 #116

What a PUNK!!! Punk ass's do this kind of shit, PUNK of the month no doubt uponit7771 Oct 2012 #19

What is the name of that officer? He needs to be identified and charged. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #21

The officer has been identified, and he's a real piece of work: Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #87

Cops like him deserve to be called Pigs. EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #94

I find the reactions in this video interesting. Brickbat Oct 2012 #30

Once a cop gets touched, gunfire and club-beatings by his fellow pigs would ensue. HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #39

I think it was so violent jsmirman Oct 2012 #47

Because Philly cops have a reputation obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #54

Police really are fucking cowards, and they know they NEVER get punished! Logical Oct 2012 #101

So, I'm a coward? glacierbay Oct 2012 #121

You want to debate cops behavior? I am fucking ready!!! Logical Oct 2012 #136

You are ready....sitting behind your keyboard....calling people cowards. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #137

Thank you for that. glacierbay Oct 2012 #140

Your ignorance of cop abuse is more telling! Read more, post less! Logical Oct 2012 #145

And your ignorance of cops is more telling! glacierbay Oct 2012 #150

It is clear that you personally have a very authoritarian attitude. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #173

Anytime friend, anytime. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #139

How many "contemp of cop" arrests ave you made? Logical Oct 2012 #146

You said all cops are cowards glacierbay Oct 2012 #149

You are seriously telling me in 30 years of being a cop you have NEVER abused.. Logical Oct 2012 #168

I HAVE NEVER ABUSED A CITIZEN OR A PRISONER glacierbay Oct 2012 #171

Well, then I thank you for being one of the few who never one single time.... Logical Oct 2012 #174

Disorderly conduct can cover a wide range of offenses glacierbay Oct 2012 #175

Like I said, the current standard is unnacceptable! Punching a woman in the face.... Logical Oct 2012 #179

Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote already glacierbay Oct 2012 #180

If you're the sort who watches one of your colleagues do this sort... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #163

You very obviously haven't read any of my posts glacierbay Oct 2012 #172

And I live in a large town where the cops take the scenic route... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #176

I don't deny there are bad cops out there glacierbay Oct 2012 #177

I don't deny that there are more decent coppers than bad. TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #181

I'm not going to dispute what you say glacierbay Oct 2012 #182

That's battery. I don't give a shit if she tossed feces at an officer, nc4bo Oct 2012 #44

The White Shirts are supervisors obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #50

She did not throw the water, it came from behind her. Fla Dem Oct 2012 #59

Not that it really matters, but she did throw some water at the very start of the video ... JoePhilly Oct 2012 #60

It's making the rounds to ever more mainstream media at this point jsmirman Oct 2012 #63

Jesus. It doesn't take much to take down a defenseless woman. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #68

Initial police response (SEE LINK) appears to be shameful jsmirman Oct 2012 #70

So, now thrown water is considered to be something that allows... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #85

Phila. Inquirer has tentaive ID BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #72

Here he is, in all his glory! What a man! Th1onein Oct 2012 #99

Gif linked - it appears she was shooting silly string at the officers jsmirman Oct 2012 #73

looks like silly string jeanmarc Oct 2012 #75

Agreed. Silly string. That cop's going to be in a lot of trouble. nt OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #77

The woman was also really, really stupid. randome Oct 2012 #81

I really don't care what she was doing as long as she didn't break the law... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #84

She did not deserve to be punched. No doubt about it. randome Oct 2012 #86

she is a housekeeper with three jobs and no power over anyone except her five kids Enrique Oct 2012 #130

I have to admit, the screen captures raise doubt about what happened. randome Oct 2012 #152

The guy in the maroon shirt was filming. jackbenimble Oct 2012 #154

Personally, I think what the video shows is a cop walking toward her jsmirman Oct 2012 #160

Awful, awful no excuse bullshit abuse. He just sucker punched her from behind. LaurenG Oct 2012 #79

Agree. Tired of police over reaction and abuse. kiranon Oct 2012 #98

pretty clear Locrian Oct 2012 #83

God charged with assault for raining on cops. L0oniX Oct 2012 #92

Although I see her hand moving I still can't see any actual water being thrown- cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #105

The water was thrown from behind her. Look over her head, the water is visible. nt bluestate10 Oct 2012 #148

Oh, I see that fine- but some posters are trying to argue that she threw water at .01-.03 seconds, cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #178

Yay, Cops! Iggo Oct 2012 #107

Cops... Still Out Of Control... WillyT Oct 2012 #108

I hope that guy gets his ass kicked a lot while in jail. Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #109

Please. He's not going to jail. Mariana Oct 2012 #141

Any man who would hit a woman like that is a Monster. NutmegYankee Oct 2012 #110

I watched several times. I didn't see her throw water. And that cop couldn't've seen who threw it. Bucky Oct 2012 #111

This mofo should be arrested and charged with assault! Catherine Vincent Oct 2012 #112

I think he was grabbing for the can of silly string she was shooting at the other cops. Barack_America Oct 2012 #122

That is positively ridiculous tkmorris Oct 2012 #138

Okay sure. "'Cuz I said so, and I refuse to entertain other possibilities"... Barack_America Oct 2012 #144

He was certainly coming for the can. Robb Oct 2012 #143

this video "purports" to show police brutality Enrique Oct 2012 #129

You mean having a few drops of water hit them precipitated this? aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #132

She didn't even throw the water. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #147

Will you look at post #73? randome Oct 2012 #151

Why am I not surprised! sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #167

I've said all over this thread that she did not deserve to be punched. randome Oct 2012 #170

He can kiss his career goodbye budkin Oct 2012 #155

This is one of the Best things about everyone having cameras these days JI7 Oct 2012 #156

And that is one of the things I tell the officers under my command glacierbay Oct 2012 #157

At 00:02 a person in a long sleeved black shirt on the far left threw the water. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #164

at the VERY beginning of the clip Duppers Oct 2012 #165

Wow I can't believe there are so many cop haters here liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #166

Lol, they need more training because they don't know what excessive force is? Logical Oct 2012 #169