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albacore

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17. LBJ could have been the turning point for this country...

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:22 AM

Nov 2020

Progressive (as President, at least) and powerful enough to bend the recalcitrant Repubs to his will.

IF he'd stayed out of that goddam war, and been elected for a second term, he could have cemented the Great Society in place.

But he just had to show the Repubs he was hard on "communism", and the war destroyed him.... and perhaps us as well.

“I knew from the start if I left a woman I really loved -- the Great Society -- in order to fight that bitch of a war in Vietnam then I would lose everything at home. My hopes, my dreams..."

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