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21. My link includes video in which Assange takes credit for the Climategate release

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:33 PM

Oct 2012

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and I'm certainly willing to entertain the possibility that Assange routinely lies for the purposes of self-promotion

But by posting the material, and by taking credit for it, Assange definitely contributed to the noise surrounding the emails -- and since there was really nothing there except noise, that fact that Assange contributed to the hullabaloo is scarcely an acquittal of his behavior

Of course, the Climategate noise certainly involved right-wing and big business actors, and it served right-wing and big business interests. But Assange has repeatedly identified himself a libertarian, and some of the strongest support for libertarians comes from right-wing and big business interests. So it's unsurprising to find the anti-government ideologue Assange acting to scuttle any agreement for global regulation of carbon emission

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Julian Assange and Wikileaks Campaign Directly Against Obama! [View all] MineralMan Oct 2012 OP

Is this where you submit to some sort of brain wipe and have all the things they exposed erased? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #1

Wikileaks' "accomplishments" include scuttling the Copenhagen climate summit: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #4

Gee I thought it was right-wing and big business climate change deniers that scuttled the summit. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #9

My link includes video in which Assange takes credit for the Climategate release struggle4progress Oct 2012 #21

No. This is where I introduce some more information MineralMan Oct 2012 #7

Hate the game, not the player Taverner Oct 2012 #2

In this case, the player is the game, MineralMan Oct 2012 #5

Me too, BUT I still have deep admiration Assange and Manning Taverner Oct 2012 #30

What happened brush Oct 2012 #34

Because he's an attention whore leftynyc Oct 2012 #37

I think he's mad at the entire US Government Taverner Oct 2012 #42

what exactly are they doing to 'catch' him?, mostly asking out of curiosity Bodhi BloodWave Oct 2012 #67

Problem is, we don't know much tama Oct 2012 #114

most investigations tho don't tend to be public, usually thats actually a rather bad idea nt Bodhi BloodWave Oct 2012 #123

No. You don't. randome Oct 2012 #69

Manning showed courage and bravery Taverner Oct 2012 #84

Wikileaks is cool (for the most part). So is whistleblowing. randome Oct 2012 #85

No, he didn't. Courage and bravery would have been him using the MWPA of 1988 and forcing msanthrope Oct 2012 #108

He's a libertarian ideologue, and the libertarian ideologues are anti-Obama: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #3

Thanks for the link. MineralMan Oct 2012 #6

Left libertarian tama Oct 2012 #10

ridiculous. Man, I'm tired of this same old lame rhetoric cali Oct 2012 #18

Some on DU thinks Obama is above criticism, as evidenced by some of these responses. Erose999 Oct 2012 #23

What criticism has been offered? randome Oct 2012 #25

What you said is beyond criticism. DevonRex Oct 2012 #135

I understand tama Oct 2012 #31

And what does Assange have to do with any of what you mentioned? randome Oct 2012 #35

BFD tama Oct 2012 #64

Simply responding to a current news item. randome Oct 2012 #71

You are wellcome tama Oct 2012 #77

She doesn't know. She's in Finland ferchrissake. Anti-authoritarians who follow global summits.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #99

Yes tama Oct 2012 #112

I care about Americans voting for our American president. Finland? I could give a shit. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #117

boom! frylock Oct 2012 #61

you understand nothing. cali Oct 2012 #104

"Subjective" and "Objective" is Latin Grammar tama Oct 2012 #110

By supporting Obama without criticism, you are supporting NDAA and drones and Wall St cronies. Erose999 Oct 2012 #136

+1 Johonny Oct 2012 #40

yes, why measure yourself based on policy when you can just label yourself as liberal? frylock Oct 2012 #60

There's really no evidence that Assange has any coherent leftist views. Read his essays and you struggle4progress Oct 2012 #38

As Orwell said tama Oct 2012 #128

Orwell earned a reputation for honesty by not caving to the political pressure of his contempories struggle4progress Oct 2012 #131

If Glen Beck had been the one that had done or said half the things Assange has done or said Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #54

I don't believe in capital punishment tama Oct 2012 #59

and if bush or romney were drone bombing the shit out of the middle east.. frylock Oct 2012 #63

Excuse me. A lot of us are dead set against the drone wars. randome Oct 2012 #73

Actually, no. Drone bombing Tora Bora in November of 2001 by Bush would have saved us a shit-load msanthrope Oct 2012 #121

+1. Can't we just chip in & buy them all an island somewhere? How long b/4 they turn on each other? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #98

If I were in Assange's position (or Manning's, god forbid) I'd be pretty pissed at Obama too. Erose999 Oct 2012 #8

So what. Seriously, just because he's mad at Obama doesn't cali Oct 2012 #12

Maybe he's just drunk-dialing from the consulate trying to stay relevant. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #11

Well he can forget about a presidential pardon julian09 Oct 2012 #13

I doubt he'll ever be tried in a US court, anyway. MineralMan Oct 2012 #14

I think he was already aware of that nt newfie11 Oct 2012 #15

Perhaps Wikileaks would rather see a Republican in charge who would've rushed into BenzoDia Oct 2012 #16

Oh and Rmoney EC Oct 2012 #17

I watched the video and theres no mention of support for another candidate. It seems that they're Erose999 Oct 2012 #19

Your last statement in that post sucks! nt MineralMan Oct 2012 #24

I was under the impression that Obama bashing is an alerting offense. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #51

It is. If nobody has alerted, you can. MineralMan Oct 2012 #52

I prefer to let such diatribes stand. randome Oct 2012 #58

Yeah, I suppose. MineralMan Oct 2012 #83

and 2.5 hours later the post stands.. frylock Oct 2012 #65

So it does. I don't have any loyalty oaths. MineralMan Oct 2012 #79

And they're still at war and there are still drones killing innocent people, and military Erose999 Oct 2012 #102

President Obama is exponentially Better than Cha Oct 2012 #111

And who are you voting for? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #122

I was under the impression that Obama bashing in that fashion was a banning offense rl6214 Oct 2012 #138

"Fuck Obama" during elections season at DU... SidDithers Oct 2012 #28

Thank goodness for transparency in edits. MineralMan Oct 2012 #33

FUCK ASSANGE, erose. Cha Oct 2012 #97

So who're you voting for? Not Obama after saying fuck him. DevonRex Oct 2012 #132

Show us Romney's tax returns Assange liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #20

Now THAT would set the world free, indeed. A real world example of where the money went. freshwest Oct 2012 #129

Fuck Assange. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #22

It's almost impossible to separate Wikileaks from Assange. MineralMan Oct 2012 #27

I agree with what you say. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #43

Wikileaks is as damaged as he is--read this expose from Al-Jazeera-- msanthrope Oct 2012 #29

Intervene in the 2012 presidential election? msanthrope Oct 2012 #26

bush did it = bad, obama does it = good. ok nt msongs Oct 2012 #32

shhh! We're not allowed to criticize Obama on this site liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #36

Not only are you allowed to criticize him.... NCTraveler Oct 2012 #47

so you agree that bush drones = bad, obama drones = good frylock Oct 2012 #68

No clue what you are talking about.nt. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #80

of course you don't.. frylock Oct 2012 #100

What am I denying? NCTraveler Oct 2012 #134

Bush and Obama did what? Explain, please. randome Oct 2012 #39

IOKIODI? Noooo, not really. tblue Oct 2012 #45

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #55

You do know that you can leave at anytime, right? nt MrScorpio Oct 2012 #62

love it or leave it frylock Oct 2012 #70

And yet you continue to post here... SidDithers Oct 2012 #72

'Cuz there's not a lot of activity over where the nuts used to fill the trees. Smashed acorns.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #105

Wikileaks will be crushed when they hear Union Scribe Oct 2012 #41

No doubt. I am definitely someone to worry about MineralMan Oct 2012 #44

Thanks for the link. I donated $15 for transparency in government. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #46

Tired of holding back on this. Fuck that attention whoring, rapist piece of trash. phleshdef Oct 2012 #48

Julian Assange speaks much truth in that video. But then, again... Zorra Oct 2012 #49

He did not tell anyone not to vote tama Oct 2012 #74

Oh, shush! Assange is an enemy of the state and very naughty..at least he is here. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #86

I've long been a staunch and consistent Assange/Wikileaks supporter, and feel that they do important Zorra Oct 2012 #90

He's attacking the corrupt establishment. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #115

OK, good point. But actually, he did say "Cast the only vote that Zorra Oct 2012 #88

I'm also a realist tama Oct 2012 #92

Yes, another good point, I totally get that. But Julian really needs to understand OUR perspective, Zorra Oct 2012 #101

Talk to Julian tama Oct 2012 #116

Yeh, well, he's kind of hard to get ahold of these days. Zorra Oct 2012 #119

He characterizes his plea for money as 'intervening' in our election. randome Oct 2012 #126

While he has done some good marlakay Oct 2012 #50

And you were so very close to completely embracing Assange before now. He'll miss you. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #53

No, I wasn't, as of course you know. MineralMan Oct 2012 #57

Julian Assange Launches Vote WikiLeaks Funding Campaign while Supporters Face �140,000 Bail Loss struggle4progress Oct 2012 #56

Well of course treestar Oct 2012 #66

I'm pretty Obama designated Assange as a potential drone assassination target nichomachus Oct 2012 #76

Obama has not done that treestar Oct 2012 #78

OMG! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #106

I doubt very much that President Obama has given MineralMan Oct 2012 #81

the only reason he/the obama administation even mentions him these days it seems Bodhi BloodWave Oct 2012 #89

Well, it sure does seem like that, doesn't it? MineralMan Oct 2012 #93

I support wikileaks 1000 percent quinnox Oct 2012 #75

OK. Thanks for letting me know. MineralMan Oct 2012 #82

LAUNCH THE DRONES! MadHound Oct 2012 #87

I doubt that there is much concern about MineralMan Oct 2012 #91

Classical rhetorical tactic tama Oct 2012 #94

Threads go where they will. MineralMan Oct 2012 #95

My memory is so bad tama Oct 2012 #109

God, I wish this asshole would get lost in the jungles of Ecuador already. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #96

People are fighting tooth and nail for the right to vote this year, Chorophyll Oct 2012 #103

^^^^^^This^^^^^^ one_voice Oct 2012 #107

Very well stated! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #113

Yes. Anyone that rapes a sleeping woman is a fucking savage. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #118

You are right. MineralMan Oct 2012 #120

Thank you, Chorophyll! Assange is Cha Oct 2012 #124

Thanks Cha and everyone else who replied. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #130

Well said...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #137

I am not surprised. It has been evident for a long time that Assange is for one thing: himself. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #125

Thanks for your comment. MineralMan Oct 2012 #127

dweeb. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #133