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ehrnst

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107. That is not the purview of the POTUS. The POTUS should be out of it. We have a DOJ

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:47 PM

Nov 2020

that handles these things, and that DOJ must be free of interference from POTUS, because if POTUS interferes, that's a ethical violation, and a politicization of what should be a criminal case. Do you think that the criminal case against Trump doesn't stand on its own independent of Biden getting involved?

The states are already lining up charges, in the jurisdictions where his business crimes were committed.

If the DOJ can make a strong case for federal crimes, they will. Ethical violations are likely not going to merit the resources of the DOJ.

Personally, I'd like to see international tribunals go after Trump. That would completely negate any accusations of a political witch hunt, and might prevent him from traveling to certain parts of the world for fear of being arrested.

A fistbump on the Senate floor by Harris is irrelevant.

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This may be the wrong time to bring this up, but I'm not sure when the time would be "right", so--- [View all] Atticus Nov 2020 OP

indeed, they must pay a price. unblock Nov 2020 #1

My hope has been that NY has sealed indictments ready to unseal on 1/21/21 Hokie Nov 2020 #2

DOJ has sealed indictments from the Cohen prosecution. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #13

If they don't pay a price, the next cult leader will be even worse. Squinch Nov 2020 #3

And more competent. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #14

Yes, we lucked out that this one was very bad at getting things done. Midnight Writer Nov 2020 #32

DEFINITELY. calimary Nov 2020 #64

The next cult leader is ***ALWAYS*** worse fescuerescue Nov 2020 #98

100% Mike 03 Nov 2020 #4

I completely agree with you Atticus leftieNanner Nov 2020 #5

Literally, Biden owes us that voted for him. What did he say on the campaign trail? I can't remember LizBeth Nov 2020 #6

He said he wouldn't stand in the way of anyone wanting to investigate/bring charges, etc. Doremus Nov 2020 #25

It was too passive for my taste. But wasn't what he said here. This is sounding definite and that is LizBeth Nov 2020 #26

Biden should not say Trump's name for the next 4 years. He stated that he would not get in the way ehrnst Nov 2020 #103

I feel no security in the statement not getting in the way of. An attitude of moving on to unite and LizBeth Nov 2020 #105

That is not the purview of the POTUS. The POTUS should be out of it. We have a DOJ ehrnst Nov 2020 #107

Of course POTUS should be out of it and his view of how he wants his presidency to proceed is LizBeth Nov 2020 #108

Who is "accepting" and "dismissing" the atrocious behavior of Republicans? ehrnst Nov 2020 #110

This IS the right time. For our own strength as a nation... Guilded Lilly Nov 2020 #7

I think the New York True Blue American Nov 2020 #8

If Bush/Cheney weren't investigated and charged....n/t leftstreet Nov 2020 #9

They should have been Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10

First black man as President had a little more restrictions than an old white man within the LizBeth Nov 2020 #27

I've never understood that... stillcool Nov 2020 #31

Exactly. Bush/Cheney fake war people died. Trump utter Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #82

If Biden appoints a weak AG who won't prosecute Trump, he will have failed as president. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #11

We need strict oversight before the swearing in including tax returns SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2020 #12

I believe Biden said he wouldn't interfere in any investigations judesedit Nov 2020 #15

If we ever hope to fix the divisions in this country hurple Nov 2020 #16

The harshest of penalties as a deterrent! gibraltar72 Nov 2020 #17

This Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #18

You ware being too kind. This son of a bitch needs to pay for his sedition and treason. ffr Nov 2020 #19

Yes, this is the Right Time. RainCaster Nov 2020 #20

They shouldn't even display his portrait. Take it down or leave the frame empty. CTyankee Nov 2020 #29

He needs to be remembered for all time as the most vile, corrupt President... RainCaster Nov 2020 #34

Trump Portrait smb Nov 2020 #54

It took me a moment, then I got it... CTyankee Nov 2020 #59

Agreed, but Biden must remain above it all Dem2 Nov 2020 #21

Failure to properly investigate and prosecute will almost certainly bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #22

yeah a david duke llashram Nov 2020 #96

Yes, yes, yes!!! cp Nov 2020 #23

Trump is a symptom of right-wing reactionary decay and not an aberration JGladstone Nov 2020 #24

Agree with you on MyMission Nov 2020 #28

Threats he can't pardon himself against... PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #30

I want televised hearings and I want his cult to mtngirl47 Nov 2020 #33

I'm fine with that TimeToGo Nov 2020 #35

The next incarnation won't be nearly as incompetent. CoryTrevor Nov 2020 #36

Biden has said he doesn't want to prosecute because he's trying to bring the country together. BComplex Nov 2020 #37

+1000 crimycarny Nov 2020 #77

Well said, crimycarny. It does seem democrats shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes. BComplex Nov 2020 #78

I heartily agree. We need to reinforce equality under the law. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #38

I agree whole heartedly. blueinredohio Nov 2020 #39

A federal statute defining "domestic terrorism" and the consequences there of KS Toronado Nov 2020 #40

I'd love to see NY State simultaneously drop about 50 lawsuits on drumpf at 12:30 PM on Jan 21. royable Nov 2020 #41

You think they should wait all the way until 12:30? Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #45

By 12:30 baby drumpf should be hitting the climax of his screaming tantrum royable Nov 2020 #52

A few thoughts: SayItLoud Nov 2020 #42

Scotland is getting ready to investigate his Scottish properties for money laundering. halfulglas Nov 2020 #84

Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity llashram Nov 2020 #99

No, it's not the wrong time, but soldierant Nov 2020 #43

Biden should stay above it. However, both the DoJ, and IRS can and should PatrickforO Nov 2020 #46

I'm not seeing Dems complaining about states, yet. soldierant Nov 2020 #50

Well, yeah. We have no business criticizing Joe over this, because we all KNEW PatrickforO Nov 2020 #63

No need to be sorry. It's not your fault Trump* is a monster. soldierant Nov 2020 #70

this++ llashram Nov 2020 #100

Frees up space in Joe's head Mopar151 Nov 2020 #69

I agree entirely that it is not Joe's place to pursue Trump. I am sorry if my OP was unclear about Atticus Nov 2020 #48

Atticus, I have the greatest respect for you, soldierant Nov 2020 #49

Thank you. nt Atticus Nov 2020 #51

I don't see the OP saying it was the job of the president to do such overall. The focus here is ... uponit7771 Nov 2020 #115

Yes, we cannot let such a monster off. PatrickforO Nov 2020 #44

The entire Trump family must be hounded.... Jon King Nov 2020 #47

I agree, but doing this on Trump alone is not enough. The criminal GOP Senators must also Boogiemack Nov 2020 #53

especially his enablers llashram Nov 2020 #101

COULD. NOT. AGREE. MORE. yokbizzi Nov 2020 #55

This is about safeguarding the future with prior diligence now misanthrope Nov 2020 #56

I Think That the Biden Administration Must Walk a Fine Line Here panfluteman Nov 2020 #57

This is the right time malaise Nov 2020 #58

Die a pauper in prison. I like the sound of that ironflange Nov 2020 #60

Exactly. Real pain must be applied to these monsters or they will be emboldened. For Nay Nov 2020 #61

Agree 100% grantcart Nov 2020 #62

I'd be perfectly happy with him in a gilt lined prison of his own making Warpy Nov 2020 #65

YES DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #66

I wonder if they can attach any money marlakay Nov 2020 #67

Eric Swalwell proposed a Presidential Crimes Commission. panader0 Nov 2020 #68

I don't see Biden doing that BainsBane Nov 2020 #71

Yes, I agree in full. warmfeet Nov 2020 #72

Who will lead the way on prosecutions, not Biden Beringia Nov 2020 #73

Our new UNTOUCHABLE Attorney General, whoever he/she may be FakeNoose Nov 2020 #74

Don't forget llashram Nov 2020 #102

Absolutely I have complete faith in Kamala FakeNoose Nov 2020 #112

Agreed. I don't think we should get freaked out by the recent articles ecstatic Nov 2020 #75

All true! BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #76

Agree Kitchari Nov 2020 #79

Biden has already specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations progressoid Nov 2020 #80

As he should be. Let the states handle it. ehrnst Nov 2020 #104

States should not handle Federal tax matters. progressoid Nov 2020 #109

I was talking about the other issues in the article that you posted ehrnst Nov 2020 #111

He's a fascist and needs to be treat as such. Same for his henchmen. nt Hotler Nov 2020 #81

Don't forget to yank his passport alfredo Nov 2020 #83

agreed, but we have to remove the fucker first jimlup Nov 2020 #85

it is time... Locrian Nov 2020 #86

Prosecution is the only way to stop him. nt Kahuna Nov 2020 #87

Prosecute him...find him guilty...then... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #88

Agreed in toto... PCIntern Nov 2020 #89

He Will Be Prosecuted colsohlibgal Nov 2020 #90

Fully agree with you. Getting him out of office isn't nearly enough. Paladin Nov 2020 #91

I said yesterday that he should be prosecuted for every crime in his long, sordid life. Grammy23 Nov 2020 #92

I said yesterday that he should be prosecuted for every crime in his long, sordid life. Grammy23 Nov 2020 #93

this llashram Nov 2020 #94

Completely agree. Mad_Dem_X Nov 2020 #95

I believe it will occur as the complete opposite fescuerescue Nov 2020 #97

Pursuing an ex president has downsides that don't apply to other people. That is,....I think.... LAS14 Nov 2020 #106

Agree completely, anything else is suicide and a mockery of what has happened Meowmee Nov 2020 #113

Gonna need a lot of investigators and prosecutors to handle the criminal cohorts. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #114