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In reply to the discussion: "Just the Ticket" -- Obama/Clinton 2012 -- Bill Keller, New York Times -- 1/9/2012 [View all]MilesColtrane
(18,678 posts)69. Alex Pareene dismantles Keller's dream:
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/09/bill_keller_writes_newest_dumbest_biden_clinton_2012_swap_piece/
Bill Keller, a bad opinion columnist, has written a bad opinion column. It is about how Barack Obama will replace Vice President Joe Biden on the 2012 ticket with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a thing that will not actually happen.
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...But even if there were any hint at all that the switch was a possibility, which there isnt, it would be a stupid idea. Hillary Clinton is already part of the presidents Cabinet, and she and her husband will already campaign for the presidents reelection. Running mates barely nudge the numbers in presidential elections, unless theyre historically awful, which Joe Biden isnt. The Clintons are among the most divisive figures in American politics Hillary Clintons recent high approval rating has come because shes not running for anything and relitigating every Clinton scandal would consume the national political press for weeks if she ended up on the ticket.
The running mate switch hasnt been successful since the Franklin Roosevelt administration, and the last time a president made a strategic switch to help win a tough reelection, it failed.
And I bet if Obama did make this stupid switch, Bill Keller would write some awful column about how desperate it made the president look. Unless he will have by then moved on to finally writing his kids today sure are sexting each other a lot piece.
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...But even if there were any hint at all that the switch was a possibility, which there isnt, it would be a stupid idea. Hillary Clinton is already part of the presidents Cabinet, and she and her husband will already campaign for the presidents reelection. Running mates barely nudge the numbers in presidential elections, unless theyre historically awful, which Joe Biden isnt. The Clintons are among the most divisive figures in American politics Hillary Clintons recent high approval rating has come because shes not running for anything and relitigating every Clinton scandal would consume the national political press for weeks if she ended up on the ticket.
The running mate switch hasnt been successful since the Franklin Roosevelt administration, and the last time a president made a strategic switch to help win a tough reelection, it failed.
And I bet if Obama did make this stupid switch, Bill Keller would write some awful column about how desperate it made the president look. Unless he will have by then moved on to finally writing his kids today sure are sexting each other a lot piece.
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"Just the Ticket" -- Obama/Clinton 2012 -- Bill Keller, New York Times -- 1/9/2012 [View all]
downwardly_mobile
Jan 2012
OP
Hillary has high poll numbers because she is not in the White House and isn't in a political
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#61
I didn't post about Obama. I only posted about DCL sHillary. No one said Obama is a progressive.
antigop
Jan 2012
#15
LOL, the only people that think Obama is progressive are conservatives, both republicons
rhett o rick
Jan 2012
#73
He sure made more progress in the area of Universal Health than anyone else in the past 70 years
MjolnirTime
Jan 2012
#80
If those Super Delegates hadn't chosen Hillary's husband, we would've never heard of her.
Romulox
Jan 2012
#33
And when they put Obama and Hillary against the Republican candidates recently,
Beacool
Jan 2012
#47
So, if I have two polls asking your favorite vegetable and favorite ice cream flavor
karynnj
Jan 2012
#54
Not to mention, Biden was right about Pakistan. Not to diss Obama and Hillary, but with all due
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#63
True - and with Romney, foreign policy will be a big advantage for the Democrats
karynnj
Jan 2012
#66
At least you make sensible points, as opposed to others who respond to the idea
downwardly_mobile
Jan 2012
#62
Biden: "I tell you what, there's a real trust, that's why he's asked me to run again."
AtomicKitten
Jan 2012
#36
If I wanted to get public support, Bill Keller is on the list as one of the last people
EFerrari
Jan 2012
#38
I agree. I also believe that she has the trust of the President and has wide latitude to conduct
grantcart
Jan 2012
#72
I think the responses to this thread opposed to the idea are enlightening --
downwardly_mobile
Jan 2012
#64
"The president assigns Biden — the former chairman of Senate Foreign Relations — to add State"
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#74
This is the Pro-Obama bumper sticker he needs for starters... found it on-line
Thinker Thunk It
Jan 2012
#75
You know, I was completely against it, but I'm actually starting to consider it, now.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#77