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meadowlander

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42. People don't like being called out on their bullshit, especially not publicly.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:06 PM
Nov 2020

But I don't think the solution to that is to stop challenging ideas.

I do think that we need to give each other the benefit of the doubt sometimes instead of jumping right to "you're a racist and you need to go away forever!"

I once had someone accuse me of being a racist because I asked the person sitting next to me, who randomly happened to be Chinese, if she knew if there were any good dim sum restaurants in the area. I wasn't asking her because she was Asian. I was asking her because the conversation happened to be about dim sum, I like it, and she was in my field of vision at the time.

I can see how having to deal with that all day is exhausting, especially if you're used to living in a pretty homogenous culture where you don't usually have to worry about it. But it's also not OK to ask women, LGBTQ+ people and minorities to keep quiet in the name of "Democrat Privilege". If something is wrong, it should be questioned and called out regardless of who is saying it.

I just think there's a way to do it that doesn't assume you know everything about the other persons' intentions or that paints them as a bad person because they said or did one thing that was ignorant or insensitive - especially if it was thirty years ago and they were under 25 or so (i.e. pre-full brain development).

We need to bring back the Socratic method instead of the wagging finger of political correctness. Ask people what they meant and then show them why you don't agree with it using logic and gentle peer pressure.

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Very true! raging moderate Nov 2020 #1
OMG this is so true! I would say, though, that empathy is hard. If you don't care, you don't hurt rainin Nov 2020 #2
✔️ blm Nov 2020 #5
You can get the physical experience of 'all hands on deck' blm Nov 2020 #3
Bummer is a weird word to use since I was born a Democrat Dem2 Nov 2020 #4
Yeah that is one advantage the right has Shermann Nov 2020 #9
That's the appeal of Republican-style autocracy: Aristus Nov 2020 #6
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Got a +1 on that from me! Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2020 #56
It has nothing to do with autocracy treestar Nov 2020 #57
That's not at all my experience. dawg day Nov 2020 #7
Agree.. all I see is angry outraged Repugs doing anything to win..lie cheat steal Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #15
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Really, if we need advanced training in diplomacy and dawg day Nov 2020 #26
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I like that-- "Repub whispering" dawg day Nov 2020 #30
Same as my mother! betsuni Nov 2020 #32
My aunt is really weird-- all for public education, healthcare for all--- dawg day Nov 2020 #33
It is weird. betsuni Nov 2020 #55
Maintaining harmony in an environment that's more homogenous... spicysista Nov 2020 #8
Maybe that's true Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10
It is dispiriting and depressing at times Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #11
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Spend some time examining why it seems so easy and fun to be a Republican. Paladin Nov 2020 #12
This! True democracy is an examination of what's wrong.never easy but no good thing is Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #14
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True redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #13
It's because they are all about the party and we are all about the ideas. dawg Nov 2020 #16
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"they are all about the party", I disagree. Hotler Nov 2020 #25
KnR. Thanks for the thoughtful comment... Hekate Nov 2020 #19
That was very well said PatSeg Nov 2020 #23
I so agree with you FakeNoose Nov 2020 #24
Sometimes we lose the plot BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #28
"The Inability To Play Rough" ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #38
Well said. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #39
K&R for one of the best posts I've read here in a long time. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #29
I came out of the science-fiction community and learned to ignore dawg day Nov 2020 #31
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LOL... I should have said "class clown" dawg day Nov 2020 #35
Republicans are about destroying & deregulating in order to extract wealth and power for the few. diva77 Nov 2020 #36
Fuck that ismnotwasm Nov 2020 #37
+1000! LanternWaste Nov 2020 #40
I often recall Kurt Bardella's take on all this nuxvomica Nov 2020 #41
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So now there exists no oppression or cause for outrage? nuxvomica Nov 2020 #45
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It still is nuxvomica Nov 2020 #47
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People don't like being called out on their bullshit, especially not publicly. meadowlander Nov 2020 #42
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Then what did you mean by: meadowlander Nov 2020 #50
We do need thicker skins treestar Nov 2020 #58
We need to win elections period. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #54
it can suck. mopinko Nov 2020 #48
I have a different perspective on it than you do IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #51
Ease up and take the children fishing. mia Nov 2020 #52
True. betsuni Nov 2020 #53
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