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68. OMG

Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:38 AM

Jan 2012

Forgive me, but I can't believe the naivete of your questions.

What do you think dominance is all about, for example? I'm not referring to mutually S&M here, but the principle of dominance. It's about the potential to rain violence upon whoever if subordinate. Else what good is it? That's what the bottom line is -- the ability to FORCE one's will on someone, or the threat of the force often buys their "willing" compliance.

I'll grant that a lot of it is centered on domination and features a prominent lack of respect for women.

Please, listen to yourself. "Dominance," "lack of respect" -- what is the natural and normal and utterly predictable outcome or result from those attitudes?

I have to go, but I STRONGLY encourage you to dig a little deeper with what you think you know

And is there any evidence that it "normalizes" misogyny in the real world?

Absolutely, because it IS misogyny.

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Let it sink. [View all] denem Jan 2012 OP

I can't help but wonder, if 1 in 5 women are raped ... dawg Jan 2012 #1

If it's your intimate partner over the years, that would be one. denem Jan 2012 #3

I guess that probably does happen a lot. dawg Jan 2012 #10

Those numbers were the result of a survey Major Nikon Jan 2012 #101

Rape is not always rape. It is just lumped together. RC Jan 2012 #7

didnt the FBI only just start adding younger kids and males? nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #22

Oh, look, a MRA argument Scootaloo Jan 2012 #39

I had a friend in PRISON for this joeglow3 Jan 2012 #53

Well, of course you do Scootaloo Jan 2012 #65

My goodness Charlemagne Jan 2012 #72

Ah yes. The Duke Lacrosse team Case Scootaloo Jan 2012 #78

What the hell? Charlemagne Jan 2012 #81

it is merely a means of diverting. fbi says UNDER 5% are false. they say 30-70% are NOT reported seabeyond Jan 2012 #82

Just pointing out that it's a perfect storm of "Oppression of the privileged" Scootaloo Jan 2012 #110

I know you can't clutter your beautiful mind with that fact Charlemagne Jan 2012 #112

Actually, you are now making shit up to justify your irrationality joeglow3 Jan 2012 #113

Regularly enough to "spike the numbers" though, apparently Scootaloo Jan 2012 #121

omg. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #80

Like I said, we are lucky. joeglow3 Jan 2012 #91

Yes that is what the poster said Charlemagne Jan 2012 #73

"There are all sorts of reasons to spike the numbers" Scootaloo Jan 2012 #77

Right Charlemagne Jan 2012 #79

give it a fuckin break. such an extreme it is ridiculous to hold it up to dismiss rape concern. seabeyond Jan 2012 #83

No Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #87

That almost never happens. The only thing I could find in favor chrisa Jan 2012 #94

different studies of college men would rape if they thought they could get away with it, 43%-60% seabeyond Jan 2012 #13

I can't believe that it could really be that high. dawg Jan 2012 #26

i dont know the number of college males that describe rape yet when asked if raped, they said no. seabeyond Jan 2012 #29

You're making the claims. tabasco Jan 2012 #62

It's the "but it's not rape if" situation. redqueen Jan 2012 #38

It's rape under the CDC definition. denem Jan 2012 #42

Yes, it is. redqueen Jan 2012 #48

I didn't do the whole college-boy frat-party thing. dawg Jan 2012 #44

Bad things can happen to women who get too drunk in public full stop. redqueen Jan 2012 #50

or less than one drink, with a drug added. women have to get the drink, hold the drink seabeyond Jan 2012 #56

you from Charlemagne Jan 2012 #74

One guy who isn't put in jail can have a very busy life. aquart Jan 2012 #40

and very few of them are put in jail Remember Me Jan 2012 #67

if that's true society's fucked. maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #60

Do you have a study Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #90

I know a guy who DevonRex Jan 2012 #23

I think a lot of men don't realize they're rapists. redqueen Jan 2012 #28

I don't see much gray here. dawg Jan 2012 #41

Maybe on some level, they do realize it. redqueen Jan 2012 #46

Thanks for the link. dawg Jan 2012 #51

My pleasure (nt) redqueen Jan 2012 #54

Accidental? No. aquart Jan 2012 #43

Yes, exactly. redqueen Jan 2012 #47

The US is a very prudish, intolerant, violent nation. RC Jan 2012 #2

sweden and france both have a higher number of unreported rape because seabeyond Jan 2012 #17

I find this number staggering. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #4

oh sweet god. Your family, I wish them peace. ANd the attackers? Something a lot less. roguevalley Jan 2012 #5

With the exception of my grandmother, all were raped at Middle or Senior High. denem Jan 2012 #9

not many women share.... three women. three rapes. one was never raped seabeyond Jan 2012 #24

My wife only found out one of daughters was raped years later. denem Jan 2012 #31

ya. seabeyond Jan 2012 #33

I suspect you know many others who have been raped but have not been told cally Jan 2012 #35

Do you understand how averages work? n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #69

I find it possible to hate both. One feeds the other a lot of the time. roguevalley Jan 2012 #6

Both are symptomatic of a deeper ills, IMO denem Jan 2012 #12

agreed completely roguevalley Jan 2012 #58

Well prostitution and slavery do go hand-in-hand. Rex Jan 2012 #8

and boys. that market is escalating. i read i think just yesterday. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #27

Yes, I see there is a term for it Rex Jan 2012 #30

denem. an excellent post. thank you. you said it all. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #11

Thank you. denem Jan 2012 #16

You know what's more disgusting MattBaggins Jan 2012 #14

especially when it goes hand in hand with sex slaves, CHILD sex slaves. those people are dismissed seabeyond Jan 2012 #32

Indeed Charlemagne Jan 2012 #76

yes... the dismissiveness of the issue is exactly what "they" mean. seabeyond Jan 2012 #84

Yep im trying to dismiss Charlemagne Jan 2012 #86

it is clear. why? that is your own. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #89

The people who don't know, what they don't know are more scary than disgusting. IMHO. denem Jan 2012 #34

If you videotape yourself and nobody sees it is it still porn? snooper2 Jan 2012 #15

WTF does this have to do with the everyday prevalence of sexual violence. denem Jan 2012 #19

hardy friggen har har Whisp Jan 2012 #21

What does the OP have to do with my basic question? snooper2 Jan 2012 #107

I hope you will consider self deletion. Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #45

not to mention the ever popular gang rape porn. you are right seabeyond Jan 2012 #57

"videotape yourself" Occulus Jan 2012 #59

wtf? seabeyond Jan 2012 #61

Training ground for rape? Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #63

It is not the fantasy aspect Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #64

But isn't there a disconnect? Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #66

OMG Remember Me Jan 2012 #68

You are forgiven. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #70

Okay I have a LOT to talk with you about, but first a couple of questions Remember Me Jan 2012 #122

Some of pornography is actual physical violence Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #71

I don't know. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #75

of course you dont see it as problematic, you defend. you excuse. you dismiss. that is clear. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #88

Huh? Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #93

thru out this thread, that is ALL you have done. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #96

OK. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #99

dismiss. i am dismissing you. that is different from getting mad. your posts have a designed goal seabeyond Jan 2012 #100

really? Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #102

You have just articulated the reason for most rape Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #92

For men who rape marions ghost Jan 2012 #105

are you really asking what we see effects us? fox news. how do you think it effects those that seabeyond Jan 2012 #85

I really don't think so. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #95

what a hoot.... nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #97

IMO they are all inextricably linked. The idea that women's bodies are things. redqueen Jan 2012 #18

That's Capitalism - and that's the point. denem Jan 2012 #25

The way I see it, we all agree that rape is wrong. redqueen Jan 2012 #36

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Jan 2012 #103

Well said! Spazito Jan 2012 #20

The DU feminists also have their threads derailed about the topics you raise on a regular basis. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #37

Sorry. I was not in the least trying to trivialize feminism. denem Jan 2012 #49

Gotcha. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #52

Thanks. denem Jan 2012 #55

Thanks for mansplaining this to us... msanthrope Jan 2012 #98

Slimy certainty? I quoted CDC figures, about a epidemic of sexual violence in the United States. denem Jan 2012 #104

Perhaps you could ask them how it feels to have their rapes used to make your porn argument. msanthrope Jan 2012 #106

That is one of the most cold hearted things I have ever read. denem Jan 2012 #108

..!. Froward69 Jan 2012 #109

Good thinking redqueen Jan 2012 #111

Evolving to procreate is what life does Froward69 Jan 2012 #114

Pretending humans are no different, cognitively and behaviorally, than animals redqueen Jan 2012 #115

Dude, your posts are making me depressed. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #117

42 FORMER lovesick loser Froward69 Jan 2012 #118

Wow. Shaktimaan Jan 2012 #116

I have had someone wake me up by going down on me, I did not consent The Straight Story Jan 2012 #119

If anyone wonders why . . . Brigid Jan 2012 #120