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AmericanCanuck

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Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:09 PM

Nov 2020

Now those people's inexperienced queen has repackaged "defund the police" into "budgetary restrictions" and is tweeting it

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'A huge catastrophe': Democrats grapple with congressional and state election losses [View all] brooklynite Nov 2020 OP

The huge catastrophe is the what the madman in the WH is doing as a lame duck still_one Nov 2020 #1

The "defund the police" thing didn't help at all. Who ever thought that was a great slogan should dem4decades Nov 2020 #2

What "slogan" would you have? "Reboot the police"? pat_k Nov 2020 #10

How about Police the Police? Anything but defund. dem4decades Nov 2020 #15

Yes. "Defund" had a more nuanced goal behind it that wasn't captured. pat_k Nov 2020 #30

Reform the police, as Biden has said. onetexan Nov 2020 #33

As I note, "reforms" have been ineffective. pat_k Nov 2020 #46

Are you arguing slogans or efficacy? LanternWaste Nov 2020 #51

I'm arguing for messaging that captures desperately needed, effective, action. pat_k Nov 2020 #61

I would start with an ad campaign crafted around this tweet: CrispyQ Nov 2020 #18

Powerful indeed. pat_k Nov 2020 #34

I wish I could rec this post Withywindle Nov 2020 #63

That was a good article. Thanks for posting. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2020 #20

"Repeal and Replace" SoFlaBro Nov 2020 #84

That could work. pat_k Nov 2020 #85

Yup, the rioting this spring was very damaging I'm several ways Amishman Nov 2020 #13

There's no proof of this, poor polling in America doesn't help either uponit7771 Nov 2020 #16

It hurt us badly. cwydro Nov 2020 #26

I don't know how the Democratic party can control the slogans that protesters use. nt. Mariana Nov 2020 #27

We get lumped in because Democratic mayors were seen as doing little or nothing to stop riots. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #29

We can't. But we can do a FAR better job responding. pat_k Nov 2020 #65

What democrat came up with that slogan? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #36

How many Democrats run as socialists? Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #52

That's a messaging problem Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #56

The point is that the messaging of defund the police became a problem. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #58

Right Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #69

If it sticks, they need to readjust. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #71

Here's a thought Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #73

Sure but how do you do that? Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #74

Call them out for it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #76

I wish that was enough. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #78

Yes. pat_k Nov 2020 #68

People who were running around pushing that phrase will likely do anything Blue_true Nov 2020 #37

How are Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #42

Good point. I simply don't like street protest for the very reason that they Blue_true Nov 2020 #48

A related post of mine up thread pat_k Nov 2020 #70

+1 AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #57

One of the truisms of life is that greater wisdom comes with more experience. Blue_true Nov 2020 #64

You know what didn't help at all? JHB Nov 2020 #38

The problem is, "what is our own media"? Caliman73 Nov 2020 #41

All the media in the world won't undue the damage that thoughtless idiots who run Blue_true Nov 2020 #50

Please explain what you mean. What thoughtless idiots and poorly thought out logic? Caliman73 Nov 2020 #54

Agreed 100% Lotusflower70 Nov 2020 #44

Under the circumstances, I think they are in pretty good shape. kentuck Nov 2020 #3

That's water under the bridge at this point. MineralMan Nov 2020 #4

Not "water under the bridge." pat_k Nov 2020 #72

I think with covid, democrats were not going door to door MacKasey Nov 2020 #5

Salesmanship ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #6

But they never do BeyondGeography Nov 2020 #9

Apparently, Not ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #19

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #32

The problem is, how do we keep a US Representative, of a democratic City Council Blue_true Nov 2020 #40

How does "reforming" police address the core issues that make communities "unsafe"? Caliman73 Nov 2020 #47

We start by hiring more people that have social services experience and experience Blue_true Nov 2020 #55

You seem to be focused on "hotheads running around with signs..." Caliman73 Nov 2020 #82

Reasonable points you made. Blue_true Nov 2020 #83

It doesn't. Reboot akin to Camden needed. pat_k Nov 2020 #75

Message Training ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #49

I don't want people alerting on me for singling out a person. Blue_true Nov 2020 #62

I Get Your Point ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #79

We need to grapple with gerrymandering and voter supression. bullimiami Nov 2020 #7

very true stopdiggin Nov 2020 #12

Money needs to be out of politics as well. Right wing media also needs to be dealt with. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #53

Absolutely. (plus corrected link) pat_k Nov 2020 #77

(Fire Chief): "Sorry maam. We saved your house but lost the curtains." dameatball Nov 2020 #8

I'm not a Dem. EndlessWire Nov 2020 #31

"progressive agenda" is total bullshit actually. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #11

Already the agenda is slipping towards "saving the world" instead of "what is right for America" Klaralven Nov 2020 #21

My idea may be wrong, but KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #22

That's OK, so long as it isn't being a sucker taken advantage of by other countries Klaralven Nov 2020 #25

Can't fix stupid with more stupid Moostache Nov 2020 #43

Covid could be stopped in the United States. China, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam and Japan have done Klaralven Nov 2020 #60

Stopping spread is NOT stopping the virus Moostache Nov 2020 #66

Trade, travel is back to normal within/between those countries Klaralven Nov 2020 #67

The republicans are better liars Turbineguy Nov 2020 #14

InOtherWords: "...please forget how horrific polling was so we can use it again in Jan 21" uponit7771 Nov 2020 #17

While Trump and the GOP have focused all of KPN Nov 2020 #23

Seems suspicious. moondust Nov 2020 #24

This is a ridiculous premise DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #28

Agree. That headline is ridiculous. Catastrophe would have been if the Con won the election, onetexan Nov 2020 #35

Cultist followers is right. Mariana Nov 2020 #39

Thank you for this post! The article overlooks massive demographic changes. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #59

I think the problem is getting Democrats to understand BainsBane Nov 2020 #45

The right-wing has long been VERY focused on. . . pat_k Nov 2020 #80

You can't reach working-class people when they have chosen to slit their economic throats krispos42 Nov 2020 #81