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pinboy3niner

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11. There must have been a few bells ringing for Fallows...

Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:52 AM

Jan 2012

...who has written before about class and American society, particularly in regard to the Vietnam War--in which Romney avoided serving while protesting FOR drafting other mothers' sons to fight and die there:

James Fallows on the Draft

Six months after the last American troops left Saigon, Washington Monthly contributing editor James Fallows revisited his experience with the draft as a Harvard undergraduate for an essay on how the Vietnam War had deepened America’s class divide. Fallows argued that while privileged young men like him believed at the time that they were fighting the war machine by escaping military service on technicalities, such draft deferments actually prolonged the conflict by lowering the stakes for the elites who could have actually done something to stop it—which was why the Johnson administration quietly but deliberately allowed them. The class divisions that determined who did and didn’t fight in Vietnam, Fallows warned, would haunt America for years to come.

http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/What_did_you_do_in_the_Class_War_Daddy

What Did You Do in the Class War, Daddy?
James Fallows
http://teacherweb.com/CA/SanRamonValleyHighSchool/EchoHamilton/What-Did-You-Do-in-the-Class-War-Daddy.pdf

Low-Class Conclusions
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1993/04/low-class-conclusions/5404/

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James Fallows: Why You Cannot Say You 'Like' Firing People - & why you can't un-ring that bell [View all] Pirate Smile Jan 2012 OP

!!!gnid gnid gnid ThoughtCriminal Jan 2012 #1

What does that mean? Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #2

Read it backwards ThoughtCriminal Jan 2012 #5

Unringing the bell. tclambert Jan 2012 #13

Thanks Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #23

I can see the commercial now izquierdista Jan 2012 #3

and graphics or voice-overs saying just how many people lost their jobs at these companies while, Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #6

Don't forget...grainy black & white filter... brooklynite Jan 2012 #16

Willard is a champion of the working man. Octafish Jan 2012 #4

Althought I actually understand the point he was trying to make rufus dog Jan 2012 #7

The same reason you can't go back on strapping your dog to the roof of your car coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #8

Beggin yer pardon but where in DSM IV (or in DSM IV-TR) is sociopathy defined? Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #25

I defer to you and wish to commend your meticulous attention to detail. I do want to say that coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #38

Let's just say that, as a criminal/forensic psychologist, I know a lot more than I ever wanted to Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #39

Only a sociopath would say he likes firing people. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #9

Reminds me of Bush The Wizard Jan 2012 #17

to be fair, he said he liked being ABLE to fire people thesquanderer Jan 2012 #20

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. mac56 Jan 2012 #24

Yes, I think it's different thesquanderer Jan 2012 #28

Sooo... enjoying "having the authority" to ruin someone's life is, somehow, not the same mac56 Jan 2012 #34

The benefit of having a power you may actually have no desire to actually use... thesquanderer Jan 2012 #40

How long have you been a contortionist? mac56 Jan 2012 #41

You still find it convoluted? thesquanderer Jan 2012 #42

"You don't have to enjoy firing people to enjoy the benefit of knowing that your employees mac56 Jan 2012 #43

I heard that! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #10

There must have been a few bells ringing for Fallows... pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #11

While his contemporaries The Wizard Jan 2012 #18

And the bastard has the gall to speak of the sacrifices of those who serve: pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #27

Love the sentiment, but help me out here: Orrex Jan 2012 #12

Someone with a little conscience might feel that way. tclambert Jan 2012 #14

I concur with your final statement re: puppy kicking, but... Orrex Jan 2012 #21

You're right. And if you really feel bad about firing someone, you hire George Clooney to do it. tclambert Jan 2012 #29

I once had to lay people off. It was horrible but PA Democrat Jan 2012 #19

+! Orrex Jan 2012 #22

People who fire others rarely go into clinical depression, or kill themselves. That's all. saras Jan 2012 #26

+9000 for truth! Zalatix Jan 2012 #50

Why does anyone think Romney has anything in common with the people? lunatica Jan 2012 #15

Perhaps he asked his Personal Assistant what it's like to be a normal person. tclambert Jan 2012 #30

Left out the fact that you can't say it because a lot of people KNOW you can be fired for patrice Jan 2012 #31

I cant believe people are making a big deal of this SnakeEyes Jan 2012 #32

Nope No Sale Snake HangOnKids Jan 2012 #33

I don't see how SnakeEyes Jan 2012 #45

It is a big deal. mac56 Jan 2012 #35

Due to his education, we can assume the man, unlike lots of other people, is NOT word-deprived. patrice Jan 2012 #36

It's disingenous to take it out of context SnakeEyes Jan 2012 #44

Even more out of touch is that many of us have absolutely no health care provider at all riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #37

Two words whistler162 Jan 2012 #46

+ 1000 mac56 Jan 2012 #53

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #47

What Crap, there is no comparison to what Kerry said JI7 Jan 2012 #48

The point was that the Kerry statement - minus its context - karynnj Jan 2012 #49

yes, but my problem is by now most know the attacks against Kerry were unfair, just wrong JI7 Jan 2012 #51

I agree 100% - and the Republicans have long tried to diminish valid karynnj Jan 2012 #52

Appealing to his mean, sociopathic base with that statement. matmar Jan 2012 #54