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Moostache

(11,145 posts)
39. FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:55 AM
Jan 2012

I object strongly to the oft repeated sentiment that atheists "believe" or have anything to "say" about a specific religion or that they make any blanket statements about what happens after physical death. I see no compelling argument that would make me accept the assertion of any omniscient, omnipresent, benevolent deity figure. Atheism is non-belief; NOT a belief or statement about ANYTHING else, including specific religions!

Atheism is a default position of simply saying there is no physical or real evidence to support the claims of all religions - be they Jew, Hindu, Christian, or Greek, Roman, Pagan, etc. Atheism is a rejection of the positive claims of others that simply goes ONE GOD further than EVERYONE ELSE!

If you claim to be Christian, then by default you are atheist to all other known or previous religions (just as the priests of the temple of Apollo or Zeus or Athena were not dedicated to the other gods of the Greek pantheon)...and if reincarnation is real, you reject all future ones too! You do not worship Thor or Zeus or Isis any more than those ancient Norsemen, Greeks or Egyptians worshiped a cosmic Jewish carpenter-zombie!

When people self-identify as "Christians" (or any other religious label you wish to wear) they are applying an identifying in-group label to themselves - but they exclude all others as out-group (and in most cases inherently less valuable lives).

When people self-identify as "atheist" they are rejecting ALL labels from ALL religions - including the Jesus cult or Mohammedanism, or the Jews, or the Hindus, or anyone else from the thousands of religions that the mind of man has sprung forth since the dawn of communication (and in most cases I know personally, they do not care what you want to convince yourself of or what fables you wish to prefer or who you wish to convince yourself is "watching out for you", as long as you leave them out of it and have the decency to keep it to your own privacy).

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Because we don't vote as a bloc. n/t yellerpup Jan 2012 #1
The hell we don't! LAGC Jan 2012 #40
Those are exciting figures. yellerpup Jan 2012 #46
Because atheists are radioactive in a country housed in the myth of it being no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #2
Because atheists, by definition, aren't trying to buy or sell anything. randome Jan 2012 #3
Self identifying atheists Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #4
Not enough of them around to care about quinnox Jan 2012 #5
well there werent that many nader voters in 2000 but people on DU care about that alot nt msongs Jan 2012 #7
Roughly the same number of atheists/agnostics as Jews.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #8
According to some reports, there are only 4 million LGBT folks in the USA justiceischeap Jan 2012 #11
Great point surfdog Jan 2012 #12
There are reasons for that leftynyc Jan 2012 #15
More atheists than jewish people in the USA! Logical Jan 2012 #32
Because they don't believe in god... immoderate Jan 2012 #6
I agree with you in somewhat less harsh terms qazplm Jan 2012 #25
LOL! You would love the stuff I edit out. immoderate Jan 2012 #26
FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!! Moostache Jan 2012 #39
An afterlife would not be evidence that a God or gods exist. greyl Jan 2012 #43
Because the only thing that defines fifthoffive Jan 2012 #9
True ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #10
THIS^^^^ maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #14
R#3 & K. Lots of good answers in the thread. Mine, that lots are de facto UTUSN Jan 2012 #13
I would imagine that if a big-money PAC were set up... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #16
Atheists need some image management superpatriotman Jan 2012 #17
I dunno; ask the pagans how they do it. eShirl Jan 2012 #18
Well...what exactly is it atheists as a group want in this regards? The Straight Story Jan 2012 #19
Hmmmmm.... welll.... how about.. 99Forever Jan 2012 #22
Done! The Straight Story Jan 2012 #23
A genuine separation of Church and State would be nice. nt greyl Jan 2012 #44
Bacon and cocaine PVnRT Jan 2012 #49
Church/State separation is a CONSTANT battle, not a fait accompli. PassingFair Jan 2012 #50
No Shit.....What about us Heathens, Agnostics, Pagans, Buddahists, etc....where we go to caucus? opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #20
because you don't believe in God Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #21
I don't want to be pandered to by politicians. Solly Mack Jan 2012 #24
Why not? surfdog Jan 2012 #27
If they kiss my ass it would mean the same thing. Solly Mack Jan 2012 #28
Because they're non-stamp collectors Union Scribe Jan 2012 #29
They think it would lose them more votes than it would gain them. dawg Jan 2012 #30
Here's a hint Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #31
We need millions of Atheist's to show up for the Reason Rally in D.C.! yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2012 #33
Because we atheists are not monolithic. By definition, we think for ourselves... we don't have scheming daemons Jan 2012 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #36
What about those of us who don't care enough about religion or the lack there of? ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #37
You want influence and leverage? You (as a bloc) better pony up some cash. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #38
because atheism is not an ideological monolith JCMach1 Jan 2012 #41
i'm an Atheist and i don't care to hear politicians talk about how patriotic and great atheists are JI7 Jan 2012 #42
"Athiests don't believe in anything..." JFN1 Jan 2012 #45
You make an excellent point. TroglodyteScholar Jan 2012 #48
Because, hopefully, atheists don't have an agenda lunatica Jan 2012 #47
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