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31. Chicken or the egg

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:31 PM

Nov 2020

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I have always saw the neglect (accidental or purposeful side affect of Libertarianism, austerity, Neo-Liberalism) of education especially one emphasizing logic, science, and Civic/Governmental/history should come first.

But now I see that there may be a hindrance to the best education when prenatal and child development perturbations by poor diet and environmental toxins dampen down health and learning ability. So it may be that environment may need to be right there as a high concern if we want to ever have a populace of robustly healthy learned humans.

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Another side of Andy Borowitz [View all] Siwsan Nov 2020 OP

Oh Indeed! The Roux Comes First Nov 2020 #1

Oh THIS! Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #2

It's been my experience that the best comedic minds are quite intelligent... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #3

So true! They simply see too much too clearly! rainy Nov 2020 #63

We have no influence over private schools Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #4

Your concern needs to be directed at PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #11

Yes. Thank you for that correction. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #13

Not since having to teach to the test for funding. And Civic classes have been gone for a long time judesedit Nov 2020 #21

Exactly. Just from my own experience, your words ring true. Missn-Hitch Nov 2020 #29

I went to both, private and public schools. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #33

Yep, absence of Civics classes... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2020 #36

Enjoy your meal. We all have a lot to be thankful for. judesedit Nov 2020 #48

You can thank the GOP for high stakes testing TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #38

Great point. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #50

That sort of deoends soldierant Nov 2020 #57

For profit charter schools are NOT PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #59

We are on the same page. soldierant Nov 2020 #76

once upon a time azureblue Nov 2020 #27

That, too... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2020 #37

I have long thought that the high-school exit exam PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #77

The majority of magats didn't go to private schools... paleotn Nov 2020 #60

It will be very difficult .... CatMor Nov 2020 #5

The Impossible is tough. Tommymac Nov 2020 #30

Yup. 2naSalit Nov 2020 #6

BINGO!!!! I've been saying this for years. The K-12 education system has failed us. CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #7

Should we include MSM could be showing people how to acquire critical thinking skills? KS Toronado Nov 2020 #9

Yes!! Have been saying this (although about traitor only the last five years) for the last six niyad Nov 2020 #8

I believe it is possible with enough money. rickyhall Nov 2020 #10

the issue here azureblue Nov 2020 #34

I understand, I live in Arkansas. rickyhall Nov 2020 #42

Great points. I taught for 20 years in public schools and it's not as simple a people want it to be. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #49

+ 1 Raastan Nov 2020 #74

100% AGREE! judesedit Nov 2020 #12

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The truth malaise Nov 2020 #15

Too true! peggysue2 Nov 2020 #16

And even that gargantuan task is not enough. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #17

There is no fixing the willfully ignorant. It's their badge of honor. nt oasis Nov 2020 #18

Well, there's that, of course. luvtheGWN Nov 2020 #19

Don't worry, the Galileos of our times will not be denied. nt oasis Nov 2020 #26

I am not certain it is all the failure of the education system Bev54 Nov 2020 #20

Exactly. Many, probably most, of his cult had access to a good education. However, you know the one Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #46

That's keeping it real Andy Borowitz. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #22

Borowitz's quote is right on target DDySiegs Nov 2020 #23

A very complicated problem that can't be ignored. BarbD Nov 2020 #24

Andy Borowitz is correct Gothmog Nov 2020 #25

Yet I Know Highly Educated Americans Raised on Critical Thinking who Still Voted for Trump Stallion Nov 2020 #28

Yep. RW media is expertly-delivered propaganda, using all the tried and true techniques. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #51

Chicken or the egg StClone Nov 2020 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2020 #32

The plug has to be pulled on Fox News, too. Wednesdays Nov 2020 #35

Yes, BUT. WHY did so many discard their education to vote for Trump? Hortensis Nov 2020 #39

I suspect they skipped a lot of classes. WheelWalker Nov 2020 #40

Emotionally, sure. But a lot of straight-A students are just fine Hortensis Nov 2020 #43

I don't think it's the education system ... aggiesal Nov 2020 #41

And how do we do that when just less than half of people think education is liberal propaganda?? Victor_c3 Nov 2020 #44

My husband and I had what I call classical educations. marie999 Nov 2020 #45

Yup. Some rural school systems moondust Nov 2020 #47

It's tempting to simplify this very complicated issue, but not productive. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #52

Yes, indeed! I despair. LAS14 Nov 2020 #53

KR.. Brainwashing fox & hate radio Cha Nov 2020 #54

There needs to be... Alacritous Crier Nov 2020 #55

Twice tandgf Nov 2020 #56

Bingo!!!! ALBliberal Nov 2020 #58

If it were education.... paleotn Nov 2020 #61

+1 sandensea Nov 2020 #65

Bingo!!! marble falls Nov 2020 #62

While I've been a Borowitz fan for quite a while now, Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #64

I never knew that MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #69

Here's a link: Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #70

Thanks MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #71

As a former teacher I can say that we teachers KNOW that BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #66

Hear! Hear! burrowowl Nov 2020 #67

K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #68

KnR...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #72

No kidding. calimary Nov 2020 #73

Wow that is something most Americans can agree on bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #75

I totally agree!!! He gets to the core of the problem. Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #78