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48. Thank you. This brings up Isenberg's "White Trash - The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America"
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 12:05 PM
Nov 2020

the well-researched history of how whites have been conned to think they've been free from America's very founding. By exclusion. Whites' exclusion by the ruling classes of Europe, they by turn, their own conditioned exclusions creating further exclusions by religion, education, "race theory" and policies, and the divisive class/race politics that cloud and maintain perspectives that promote old European exclusions. When the British (more than other European colonizers) colonized, it wasn't just land, but mind.

Nancy Isenberg analyzes the formation of an intractable caste system that lingers below the national myths and stories of rugged individualism and cities on hills.

Ms. Isenberg contends that adults in America are spoon-fed their history as if they were toddlers -- of great religious values, colonies, universities founded on enlightenment "principles," yet practicing class exclusions on all people born poor white or non-white.

She demonstrates that most early settlers did not come to escape religious persecution. “During the 1600s,” she writes, “far from being ranked as valued British subjects, the great majority of early colonists were classified as surplus population and expendable ‘rubbish.’

Ms. Isenberg does not skimp on economic analysis. She notes how the central engines of our economy, from slave-owning planters up through today’s bank and tax policies, have systematically harmed the working poor. “We have to wonder,” she writes about her book’s subjects, “how such people exist amid plenty.”

Part of her answer is the “backlash that occurs when attempts are made to improve the conditions of the poor,” from the New Deal through Obamacare. “Government assistance is said to undermine the American dream,” she writes, adding: “Wait. Undermine whose American dream?”


Class begins and ends with the corporate dream to control humans for its own ends, by force, legitimized force through policy, then myths that blame its human victims.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/22/books/review-white-trash-ruminates-on-an-american-underclass.html


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R&K Thank you. MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #1
Thank goodness. An article about the winners... Hugin Nov 2020 #2
And that after four years of puff pieces about the winners, which followed eight years StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #3
No kidding. Hugin Nov 2020 #7
Damn straight. theaocp Nov 2020 #10
True. But it really ramped up with the obsessive "They hate Obama, but don't call them racist..." StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #12
I noticed something the other day... MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #16
The country is obsessed with low-information rural white people. yardwork Nov 2020 #18
I'm not sure about the country, but the media certainly is. StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #19
Racism isn't a deal-breaker for her, in any case. yardwork Nov 2020 #20
Yep StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #21
Yep. And I do think that many white people are obsessed with the plight of rural white people. yardwork Nov 2020 #23
Your second sentence. It's not as if. It is. paleotn Nov 2020 #31
Posting this thread bdamomma Nov 2020 #84
Thanks! paleotn Nov 2020 #85
"...loss of power and prestige among wealthy white people, who are actually still very well off." jaxexpat Nov 2020 #40
Agree v strongly w/ your 2nd sentence, *except* it's not metaphor --- eppur_se_muova Nov 2020 #51
The people in that book weren't even all poor. LisaM Nov 2020 #61
Trump tapped into a broad swath of White fear about what the future will look like. Blue_true Nov 2020 #76
Or, that no matter how sweet she seems to certain people, her support of Trump Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #64
The Press is, the rest of the country is moving on to deal with the complex Blue_true Nov 2020 #70
Way too many years... paleotn Nov 2020 #29
Good For Him! ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #4
Thank you Ohiogal Nov 2020 #5
Wonderful XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #6
Does the WaPo offer x free articles per month? XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #8
I don't think so. LittleGirl Nov 2020 #57
Me either, but didn't they used to? Ligyron Nov 2020 #59
Darn I really like him and want to read this. XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #63
WP offers free online access to students and government employees. Here's more from column Hamlette Nov 2020 #69
Thank you! XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #71
Thank you! XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #72
Thanks! I wondered what his reading list would be. Hekate Nov 2020 #78
Search Google for the title, and then click the triangle to the right Lisa0825 Nov 2020 #80
K&R brer cat Nov 2020 #9
I kept hoping Mr. Robinson would also have added something like this: madaboutharry Nov 2020 #11
Bookmarked. Boomerproud Nov 2020 #13
T.hank you, Eugene Robinson. niyad Nov 2020 #14
This article clearly points out what the media has done to this country. They're guilty. BComplex Nov 2020 #15
Good column. yardwork Nov 2020 #17
New challenge for the corporate media Oscarthegreat Nov 2020 #22
Not sure how well this list will work... MrModerate Nov 2020 #24
Too be really fair, robbob Nov 2020 #25
Ha! That would take actual reflection... paleotn Nov 2020 #34
Yep. It wasn't a reading list, it was dozens of "Trump voter panels" saying MAGA lostnfound Nov 2020 #91
K. R. dchill Nov 2020 #26
A huge AMEN to that sentiment! llmart Nov 2020 #27
This! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2020 #28
Yes. Instead of this obsession with winning over "rural" voters. marmar Nov 2020 #30
YES YES YES BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #32
Amen! Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #37
+1 Hugin Nov 2020 #41
I'm sorry. BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #44
I had my own revisionist epiphany about a week ago. Hugin Nov 2020 #47
I don't even recognize my state anymore BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #49
... Hugin Nov 2020 #92
Guess what? BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #93
Thanks for info on the Philly Inquirer's gross malpractice... paleotn Nov 2020 #45
When you mention the "47%" BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #46
And the best part is, Cheeto and his GOP plutocrat backers DETEST white voters sandensea Nov 2020 #79
600,000+ people in Philadelphia voted for Biden/Harris Retrograde Nov 2020 #89
Amen. Looking at your Corporate Media. Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #33
for me, it was for magat tears Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #35
Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #36
btw, what is the reading list? Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #38
Here - I compiled what was in the article as links to books (vs films/shows) BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #53
I think maybe the suggestion to listen to Coltrane counts for that list also. soldierant Nov 2020 #73
Well I separated out the "books" ("reading list") from the other informational sources BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #75
Huge K&R pandr32 Nov 2020 #39
The Biden Voter Is Not So Hard to Understand, IMO. panfluteman Nov 2020 #42
Hillbilly Elegy Bear Creek Nov 2020 #43
Thank you. This brings up Isenberg's "White Trash - The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America" ancianita Nov 2020 #48
To underscore your bit on... Hugin Nov 2020 #50
Criminality also had to do w/ protestant religions. Rather than criminalize whole sects, they were ancianita Nov 2020 #56
Are you familiar with Bacon's Rebellion? Hugin Nov 2020 #94
Thank you. I've always regretted not being a history major, but yes, I'm familiar. ancianita Nov 2020 #97
"Warts and all". Hugin Dec 2020 #98
Thanks, sounds like a book to look for. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2020 #52
Used from Amazon for $6. Over 2,000 reviews, which means it's a real best seller, imo. ancianita Nov 2020 #54
This is One of The Most Important Books..... McKim Nov 2020 #83
An EXCELLENT idea. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #55
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About time someone in the media said this. LisaM Nov 2020 #60
Perfect....Bravo Politicalgolfer Nov 2020 #62
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Excellent. BadgerMom Nov 2020 #68
Huge kick and rec.!!!!! And, book marked. love_katz Nov 2020 #74
Longtime fan of Eugene Robinson here. He's put his finger right on something that really got to me Hekate Nov 2020 #77
He is absolutely incredible. LisaM Nov 2020 #95
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Nov 2020 #81
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How about people who are simply unwilling to bend over and let tRump ***K Democracy 4 more years? TigressDem Nov 2020 #87
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