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NurseJackie

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75. If charities, churches, pantries, kitchens ...
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 12:56 PM
Nov 2020
I’d be more along the lines that a “food insecure” child doesn’t tug at the heartstrings quite like a “hungry” child does,
If charities, churches, pantries, kitchens and other civic-groups want to use "heartstring" words in order to motivate individuals to donate or volunteer... sure! Why not?

Nobody is trying to BAN or PROHIBIT the use of the word "hunger" or "hungry". Nobody is suggesting that "I'm having food insecurity" is the new way to say "I'm hungry".

And hunger has never referred to just food. You can hunger for a lot of things.
Hungry for love. Hungry for money. Hungry for fame. Hungry for solitude. Hungry for knowledge.

That way the conservative trashing of social safety nets doesn’t seem so bad.
But it's very short-sighted to try and limit the vocabulary and accurate phrasing that helps others to have meaningful conversations and to address a plethora of problems and issues OTHER than the symptom of "hunger". Do you just want to talk about the end-result? Or will it be okay for people to be able to honestly discuss the societal and economic reasons that the people are hungry.

This OP is literally over-thinking things. The OP is in search of a problem that doesn't exist. --- All I'm trying to say is that it's always better to find solutions to actual problems than to invent "problems" (and feel as though something meaningful is being accomplished when scolding others for using perfectly fine terms like "food insecurity".)

What good purpose does it serve to dumb-down the conversation (and the search for solutions) when it's so much more complex that simply "hunger"?

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R&K MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #1
Food Insecurity has nothing to do with mustard or ketchup. MineralMan Nov 2020 #2
As long as the stories stay front and center Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #3
I disagree. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #4
Thank you StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #15
Great points Piasladic Nov 2020 #16
Good points and maybe hungry isn't the right word but SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #32
Well, that explains it. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #51
Haaaaa! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #56
Thank you. N/t Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #55
Well said. johnp3907 Nov 2020 #64
Maybe, but I'm going to respectfully disagree Arthur_Frain Nov 2020 #74
If charities, churches, pantries, kitchens ... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #75
Thanks for the rational thought, Jackie. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #95
CORRECT Skittles Nov 2020 #96
"Food insecurity" doesn't sound pretty at all. It's a vivid descriptor of the problem. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #5
Sadly, the premise of this OP has the effect of marginalizing what Food-Insecurity actually is. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #9
Well said. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #12
I think some people around here would object to the word hungry Bettie Nov 2020 #6
Ridiculous. --- Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #10
Is that YOUR new rule because I've never read it on DU. SharonClark Nov 2020 #13
Not at all. I get "hungry" sometimes, between meals. MineralMan Nov 2020 #26
You forgot this, right? Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #29
There's one thing here I always read. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2020 #7
It reveals much. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #82
It does indeed. I believe around the middle of the month I will be in a rzemanfl Nov 2020 #84
Food Insecure is more accurate than hungry. yardwork Nov 2020 #8
Yes. Insecure is too WEAK of a word. Perhaps UNSTABLE, UNPREDICTABLE or VOLATILE are stonger. TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #11
That leaves out the problems associated with malnutrition... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #14
Got it. Adding from the USDA, definitions and graphics TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #24
Hope no one skips this post. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #31
Great info. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #48
thank you llashram Nov 2020 #17
Absurd! It's not a euphemism that's meant to sanitize or minimize. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #21
I misunderstood, I guess llashram Nov 2020 #22
If we stopped using every word and phrase marybourg Nov 2020 #18
Thank you! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #34
Why is it when the MSN does a report on people doc03 Nov 2020 #19
Maybe because it doesn't always fit what people like you think it looks like? sweetloukillbot Nov 2020 #23
Didn't I say a person can be overweight because of doc03 Nov 2020 #85
You think obese people can't be hungry? WTF is this? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #25
It's called "grasping for straws" and a profound lack of understanding of the fact that... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #38
Lol LeftInTX Nov 2020 #60
LOL Hunger's funny! sweetloukillbot Nov 2020 #86
The irony is funny LeftInTX Nov 2020 #87
Exactly! Democrats need to say it like it is PEOPLE ARE STARVING judesedit Nov 2020 #20
People are not starving. They face food insecurity. There is a difference. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #33
Would you wait in line for 10 hours to get a bag of potatoes and various staples? judesedit Nov 2020 #88
Screw that food insecurity bullshit. judesedit Nov 2020 #89
They are suffering, but they are not starving. They are experiencing food insecurity. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #90
Starve: To suffer severely or die judesedit Nov 2020 #91
Well sure. Children and the very old can be starved by abusive caretakers. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #92
I Have To Side RobinA Nov 2020 #27
But the issue is not starvation, or even "can't put food on the table." WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #30
I basically agree Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #65
Why different? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #66
It just seems Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #67
Yes. cwydro Nov 2020 #93
Yes. cwydro Nov 2020 #94
Compare being without enough food to eat luvtheGWN Nov 2020 #54
Agree 100% Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #28
"Food Insecurity" is the kind of term you develop when you're trying to study and solve the problem. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #35
False dichotomy Shermann Nov 2020 #36
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #37
Dude. nt Codeine Nov 2020 #47
The fuck? demmiblue Nov 2020 #53
Food insecure is actually a more precise term than "hungry" yellowcanine Nov 2020 #39
"Don't know where or when their next meal may be...." Heartstrings Nov 2020 #40
It's a direct consequence of Republican malfeasance pandr32 Nov 2020 #41
K&R mountain grammy Nov 2020 #42
For Black Friday I signed up to give a recurring monthly donation to Second Harvest Heartland NickB79 Nov 2020 #43
Yes seta1950 Nov 2020 #44
Username checks out. nt Codeine Nov 2020 #45
You're not alone. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #50
Not the first time. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #59
"Food insecure" is corporatespeak to cloud the harm of maldistribution systems from farm to table. ancianita Nov 2020 #46
No.There's nothing "pretty" about food insecurity. cwydro Nov 2020 #49
I agree. The OP does a great disservice. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #57
"food insecurity" is an established term used around the world milestogo Nov 2020 #52
As someone who fights food insecurity for a living utopian Nov 2020 #58
I really have no opinion just yet DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #61
They are describing different things. meadowlander Nov 2020 #73
Naah. It's a useful term that puts the problem in context for further discussion. MrModerate Nov 2020 #62
Nope. johnp3907 Nov 2020 #63
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #68
Archae did this one. It did not go well. demmiblue Nov 2020 #69
This is a crap take. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #71
What specifically leads you to believe that...? LanternWaste Nov 2020 #78
Another take on "welfare queens" KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #81
Don't have food to eat... dlk Nov 2020 #70
I certainly take your point, and agree... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #72
It's just a matter of time before murder victims are referred as "life insecure" Snake Plissken Nov 2020 #76
No it's not. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #83
I think your interpretation of the word is without evidence. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #77
Disagree, In the US poorer people often are overweight JI7 Nov 2020 #79
Thank you! This particular phrase drives me nuts. It's HUNGER. People are HUNGRY. Vinca Nov 2020 #80
Food insecurity and hunger are two different things and littlemissmartypants Nov 2020 #97
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