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TheFarseer

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34. Why can't we just all be people?

Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:24 PM

Nov 2020

Dems make it a self fulfilling prophecy when they point out Democratic is the party of POC and white people are doing (fill in the blank) wrong. We need to make our message class based or most white people are going to be alienated.

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Why do white men as a demographic always vote Republican? [View all] BainsBane Nov 2020 OP

Because the status quo and conservatisim are a white supremacy that prizes masculinity. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #1

I do believe a belief in authoritarianism--"Daddy-issues" and racism does explain hlthe2b Nov 2020 #10

If the exit polls are accurate BainsBane Nov 2020 #16

Articles asking why white women tend to vote Republican are not "scapegoating" -- they're asking WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #24

I disagree BainsBane Nov 2020 #30

How, exactly, are these articles "weaponized"? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #33

I'll give you 2016 as an example BainsBane Nov 2020 #46

Another example Withywindle Nov 2020 #110

+1 LizBeth Nov 2020 #112

It is scapegoating, particularly when it comes from white men. kcr Nov 2020 #42

I am really unclear on what this "scapegoating" looks like and who's doing it. When you say WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #48

Where do you think we are right now? kcr Nov 2020 #52

Other people here are saying there's "scapegoating" going on. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #54

Then I'm not sure you understand what scapegoating is, so there's no point. kcr Nov 2020 #57

It's an observation BainsBane Nov 2020 #92

Well, for one thing, this thread and OP were about white men Withywindle Nov 2020 #113

I adamantly disagree white feminists do not recognize the work the needs to be done with other LizBeth Nov 2020 #47

I'm a white man. Aristus Nov 2020 #2

Same here. LuvNewcastle Nov 2020 #29

I am of that demographic kairos12 Nov 2020 #103

Trump only got 55% of white women so it's a slim majority nt Shermann Nov 2020 #3

If those polls are even accurate BainsBane Nov 2020 #4

Yes, we should wait for the Pew research study that will spooky3 Nov 2020 #11

Interesting BainsBane Nov 2020 #36

Yes. Slightly more of them did vote repub than Dem, but the media spooky3 Nov 2020 #68

Okay BainsBane Nov 2020 #78

You're welcome. Notice that 62% of white men spooky3 Nov 2020 #87

I didn't realize that the difference in population was so great BainsBane Nov 2020 #90

I wonder too and will be interested to see the Pew results. Nt spooky3 Nov 2020 #91

What is different about Pew's methodology BainsBane Nov 2020 #93

If you go to the link in my earlier post, then scroll down to spooky3 Nov 2020 #94

I think it was a lower amount, personally. And I disagree I am a visitor to the party. LizBeth Nov 2020 #12

"the inherent patriarchy enforced by religion" luv2fly Nov 2020 #35

It's good to doubt this Stargleamer Nov 2020 #17

Only? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #101

LBJ may have been the last Democrat to capture the the majority Stargleamer Nov 2020 #5

I heard my boss say one time that he always voted Republican because of his Christian values. Arkansas Granny Nov 2020 #6

My late husband was a white man... lisa58 Nov 2020 #7

why speak in such extremes? "always" "Never" pretty offensive post NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #8

+1 hlthe2b Nov 2020 #14

+2 Alex4Martinez Nov 2020 #19

Because we have seen countless posts BainsBane Nov 2020 #25

I can't help but notice the different reaction between those threads and yours kcr Nov 2020 #28

Thank you BainsBane Nov 2020 #37

The difference between the two does tend to pull a curtain or two aside. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #100

Actually that article was debunked very publicly. Truthfully, we don't yet know exactly how many hlthe2b Nov 2020 #38

Do you know what I do during the day? How much time I spend here - or don't? NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #56

My point is a valid one BainsBane Nov 2020 #65

Then make it in a valid way. Black/white, all of nothing statements and thinking NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #70

You are an individual BainsBane Nov 2020 #77

It is not the point you were trying to make, it was the way you were making it. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #81

Do you not think the other post I referenced BainsBane Nov 2020 #85

Haven't read it - but if it was an article - that's awful word choices. Just because NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #95

fair point BainsBane Nov 2020 #97

thank you. have a nice rest of your Sunday! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #99

I am understanding where you are coming from. Yes, it is always on the woman to be above it all, LizBeth Nov 2020 #64

Please luv2fly Nov 2020 #9

I read white men educated vote increased for Democrats this election. LizBeth Nov 2020 #21

Please feel free to express how ridiculous BainsBane Nov 2020 #50

I do feel free thanks luv2fly Nov 2020 #59

Do you dispute the fact BainsBane Nov 2020 #71

I dispute your use of the word "always" luv2fly Nov 2020 #117

What are conservatives trying to conserve? Iggo Nov 2020 #13

I think at this point BainsBane Nov 2020 #86

This old white man doesn't. edbermac Nov 2020 #15

White men made up Biden's second largest voting block after white women. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #18

As an old white man who has never voted for a Republican MineralMan Nov 2020 #20

Well, then the statement white people are guests in the party when they bring the majority of the LizBeth Nov 2020 #22

Question everything. That's my motto. MineralMan Nov 2020 #31

I can agree with all this. And I do question, hence my previous post. LizBeth Nov 2020 #39

Yes, exactly. I edited the post. MineralMan Nov 2020 #49

Totally hear you. It drives me mad when I do it. LizBeth Nov 2020 #66

Ummm luv2fly Nov 2020 #43

Oops. I corrected the post. MineralMan Nov 2020 #44

I think you want to edit this. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #51

Already done. MineralMan Nov 2020 #53

I disagree about skin color not being a predictor BainsBane Nov 2020 #96

+1 LizBeth Nov 2020 #111

Check post #75. nt LAS14 Nov 2020 #76

Shrug MineralMan Nov 2020 #82

This. nt cwydro Nov 2020 #105

I'm white and I haven't voted (R) in 40+ years RainCaster Nov 2020 #23

Union? n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #55

Never - not needed in my field RainCaster Nov 2020 #61

Wow. You do, indeed, blow up all the stereotypes. Laelth Nov 2020 #63

Many of us do, if you scratch the surface a bit RainCaster Nov 2020 #67

Yea you and yes we get to rejoice your Dem vote, lol. LizBeth Nov 2020 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Jeebo Nov 2020 #26

I have a theory, but it might be a bit like a conspiracy idea. zanana1 Nov 2020 #27

I know this to be true, we hear it from them. LizBeth Nov 2020 #72

I don't think that's a conspiracy theory at all BainsBane Nov 2020 #84

Becayse They Like To Control What Other People Do & How Much THey Have Me. Nov 2020 #32

Why can't we just all be people? TheFarseer Nov 2020 #34

But the fact that failing to acknowledge Codeine Nov 2020 #115

Can we do it in a way that TheFarseer Nov 2020 #118

White men DON'T always vote Republicon. Jeebo Nov 2020 #40

the statement is about the demographic BainsBane Nov 2020 #58

I don't disagree with the point of your original post. Jeebo Nov 2020 #74

fair point BainsBane Nov 2020 #80

Because they honestly believe MyNameGoesHere Nov 2020 #41

upward mobility BainsBane Nov 2020 #83

People vote for the party that aligns with " their values" tulipsandroses Nov 2020 #45

I am a white, 61 year old, male, life-long blue collar worker. I voted GOP one time in my life. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #60

They imagine themselves macho and Dems weak. Ligyron Nov 2020 #62

that's a good point BainsBane Nov 2020 #88

They want the 1950s back. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #73

To the OPer, I imagine you're frustrated that so many disregarded your... LAS14 Nov 2020 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Nov 2020 #79

I'm glad you clarified your post MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #89

Thank you. nt BainsBane Nov 2020 #98

Simple-minded. They don't. Maybe align with reality? Hortensis Nov 2020 #102

The question wasn't about smart or stupid BainsBane Nov 2020 #104

Nope. I'm calling out this blatant propaganda headline for what it is. Hortensis Nov 2020 #106

Pseudo Masculinity or toxic masculinity or whatever it's called Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #107

White Men really do need to look to themselves and stop seeing their group as victims JI7 Nov 2020 #108

White guy here. fearnobush Nov 2020 #109

I am not a guest in the Democratic Party. Codeine Nov 2020 #114

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #120

Generalizations aside Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #116

Both white men and white women vote republican too much standingtall Nov 2020 #119