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Laelth

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13. Right now the Trump Administration IS the government of the US.

Reply to drmeow (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 29, 2020, 05:16 PM

Nov 2020

You don’t actually believe that he is trying to overthrow himself, do you?

-Laelth

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The sedition continues... [View all] kentuck Nov 2020 OP

And you would win that argument (IMHO) n/t CincyDem Nov 2020 #1

It wouldn't go anywhere in court. onenote Nov 2020 #20

If not sedition, what would we call it? kentuck Nov 2020 #21

We'd call it stupidity. But not every stupid act is a crime. onenote Nov 2020 #22

For example? kentuck Nov 2020 #41

What would we call it? wnylib Nov 2020 #72

Would the office of the Presidency constitute a "force?" sarchasm Nov 2020 #71

no onenote Nov 2020 #73

Absolutely. When Trump communicates it is seditious. rickyhall Nov 2020 #2

I heard of one poll (however accurate?) that said 72 % of Republicans believed election was fraud. kentuck Nov 2020 #8

Sad!tion Blue Owl Nov 2020 #3

Trump CAN'T commit sedition at this time. Laelth Nov 2020 #4

Sedition law drmeow Nov 2020 #6

Right now the Trump Administration IS the government of the US. Laelth Nov 2020 #13

Actually, Trump's administration the executive part, but HariSeldon Nov 2020 #34

I don't think Trump is trying to overthrow either Congress or the SCOTUS. Laelth Nov 2020 #39

The Trump admin is PART of the US government. paleotn Nov 2020 #37

Good point too treestar Nov 2020 #67

It is not the government or the administration drmeow Nov 2020 #44

You make an elegant distinction. kentuck Nov 2020 #46

I am not an expert on election law drmeow Nov 2020 #49

Very perceptive. kentuck Nov 2020 #50

I have this thread to thank drmeow Nov 2020 #53

"Eternal vigilance" and all that stuff... kentuck Nov 2020 #54

Which is also a reminder drmeow Nov 2020 #55

Fits what those toons in Michigan did when they tried to kidnap the governor.. Volaris Nov 2020 #28

It is not "his" government. kentuck Nov 2020 #10

Yes, it's our government. It's called the Trump Administration. Laelth Nov 2020 #12

Was he inciting people to rebel against the state when he tweeted "Liberate Michigan!"? kentuck Nov 2020 #14

If your interpretation of sedition is correct ... Laelth Nov 2020 #23

What would you call an attempted coup- SophieJean Nov 2020 #27

He's just filing lawsuits. Laelth Nov 2020 #32

That's why the legal definition requires force (something beyond just speech) Volaris Nov 2020 #29

I appreciate your comments. kentuck Nov 2020 #30

My pleasure. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #43

The Constitution can be amended treestar Nov 2020 #68

Incorrect my dear Laelth. In my opinion when the dUmpster undermines the legitimacy of the c-rational Nov 2020 #45

+1 treestar Nov 2020 #66

It is definitely sedition. roamer65 Nov 2020 #5

Overtly seditious. spanone Nov 2020 #7

If those Open Skies jets are destroyed then that'll be an obvious act of sedition. Towlie Nov 2020 #9

I think that would be strong evidence of sedition, also. kentuck Nov 2020 #11

I thought the Senate had to approve all treaties, and changes to them? Volaris Nov 2020 #33

Wouldn't modern satellite technology render older spy planes obsolete? Pepsidog Nov 2020 #15

I'm slow today, Pepsidog. :-) kentuck Nov 2020 #18

It's not you, what was I thinking? Of course it's a bad idea. Thanks for your comment. Pepsidog Nov 2020 #24

Happy Holidays! kentuck Nov 2020 #26

Trump is ginning up a revolt against the next administration Redleg Nov 2020 #16

If he continues these types of behaviors and incitement to violence, after he leaves the WH... kentuck Nov 2020 #25

And I wouldn't argue with that! pandr32 Nov 2020 #17

I agree bdamomma Nov 2020 #19

I think Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #31

Numerous times he has called for people to "liberate" or take "the 2nd Amendment" solution... kentuck Nov 2020 #35

Been arguing the same thing for a week mgardener Nov 2020 #36

Would an election be considered a "lawful authority"? kentuck Nov 2020 #38

I would agree that billh58 Nov 2020 #40

Good points! kentuck Nov 2020 #42

He's been trying every angle to tear it down for 4 years. Yes, it's sedition and throw treason in. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #47

Black's Law Dictionary: ewagner Nov 2020 #48

Thanks for that, ewagner! kentuck Nov 2020 #52

You're welcome Kentuck! ewagner Nov 2020 #56

Better than pounding the table? kentuck Nov 2020 #57

Dictionary definitions are irrelevant. The statute governs, not the dictionary. onenote Nov 2020 #58

I would agree that US Law Statutes should take precedence over dictionary definition. kentuck Nov 2020 #59

Still have to prove the "by force or violence" part. onenote Nov 2020 #61

Can there be "attempted sedition" without "force or violence"? kentuck Nov 2020 #62

Nope. onenote Nov 2020 #63

Whatever it might be called? kentuck Nov 2020 #65

Isn't Barr attempting to charge protesters who vandalized and tore down confederate statues fearnobush Nov 2020 #69

You're right.It wouldn't hold up in court. onenote Nov 2020 #70

No argument from me. dchill Nov 2020 #51

And I would agree. lees1975 Nov 2020 #60

He always was a seditionist. miyazaki Nov 2020 #64