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21. Problem is that Obama seemed ..

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:29 PM

Oct 2012

defensive..like he had no fire and conviction..Romney seemed like the passionate one..Obama kept looking down..like he was beaten...and really failed to take the fight to Romney...

This was a game changer for a few..and that is all it takes..

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Let's be freaking honest, damn it [View all] demwing Oct 2012 OP

Thanks. Wise words. nt Chorophyll Oct 2012 #1

finally . . . the voice of reason! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #2

My gosh, I think you gave the best summing up of the night WI_DEM Oct 2012 #3

The voice of reason.... snacker Oct 2012 #4

absolutely - to make Bid Ed happy - Obama would've had to alienate voters he needs Coexist Oct 2012 #5

Eh. I think he could have kicked Romney's ass more. randome Oct 2012 #13

I don't feel good Mojorabbit Oct 2012 #136

Must Realize that the Incumbent Always has a first debate disadvantage Xyzse Oct 2012 #6

Well said. VenusRising Oct 2012 #7

This is the first post I've read on DU about the debate... TroglodyteScholar Oct 2012 #8

A big K&R for reason!! n/t beac Oct 2012 #9

That was the best debate I've ever seen from Romney. And Obama's worst ever LittleBlue Oct 2012 #10

I want to ad this - be your own political tire kicker demwing Oct 2012 #11

But as many football fans know well jimlup Oct 2012 #12

The lasting impressions marions ghost Oct 2012 #14

I didn't watch the debate to hear the President pontificate. russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #15

Nicely stated. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #16

But whatever Romney gained, is going to start falling apart as pundits rip him to bits Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #17

that sounds about right fishwax Oct 2012 #18

Well said awake Oct 2012 #19

Yep. It's hard to counter the Gish Gallop. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #20

Thanks for introducing me to the Gish Gallop NBachers Oct 2012 #54

Problem is that Obama seemed .. Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #21

oh I couldn't disagree more demwing Oct 2012 #23

Did you read the post to which you responded? Doctor_J Oct 2012 #84

Thank you for pointing that out. Myrina Oct 2012 #86

Hanging his head? jackbenimble Oct 2012 #102

Thanks for pointing that out :) demwing Oct 2012 #109

Yes I read it, all the way to the end demwing Oct 2012 #101

Such as here: demwing Oct 2012 #99

A game changer? Indpndnt Oct 2012 #42

THANK YOU. Agree 100%. klook Oct 2012 #123

Agreed! Mitt was haried, panicky, crude, rude and socially unacceptable last night rustydog Oct 2012 #129

I agree... whathehell Oct 2012 #77

Exactly....nailed it. zellie Oct 2012 #80

Obama seemed more presidential. badhair77 Oct 2012 #22

Unfortunately SLCLiberal Oct 2012 #68

Do you have a link to that? Blanks Oct 2012 #134

I agree with you completely..nt. Stuart G Oct 2012 #24

After hyperventilating for the last hour, I'm ready to be talked off the ledge. chalky Oct 2012 #25

Now just wait for the Team Obama commercials demwing Oct 2012 #26

That's right---Romney was trying to provoke Angry Black Man, and he failed. msanthrope Oct 2012 #27

oh, you're right, I know... it's just that Obama could have won renate Oct 2012 #28

exactly mrs_p Oct 2012 #29

However Mellow56 Oct 2012 #30

You're right about Fox viewers demwing Oct 2012 #32

Thanks for putting that image in my head. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #43

confident and in control? BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #75

Romney did mess up big time. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2012 #31

Please Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #33

Right! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #48

Yes. let's look. Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #70

If all you're out to do is win one debate, you're missing the point, as well. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #72

not energetic and motivated to begin with DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #79

Funny Mellow56 Oct 2012 #34

The Fire Mellow56 Oct 2012 #35

I agree , I think our expectations were so high that although Obama did well he didn't do as well as Demonaut Oct 2012 #36

Mitt looked like an angry, condescending old white man. He made my skin crawl. LittlestStar Oct 2012 #37

I finally had to turn it off---his "performance" sickened me young_at_heart Oct 2012 #38

Looks cunning Mellow56 Oct 2012 #39

Some people Mellow56 Oct 2012 #40

I didn't watch the debates.... lexw Oct 2012 #41

I dare everyone to watch it again on c-span defacto7 Oct 2012 #44

Agreed, it was a bad night for Obama but not even close to a game changer Bjorn Against Oct 2012 #45

Go back, not so far back....... suston96 Oct 2012 #46

it might have moved one state NC, but I doubt that. grantcart Oct 2012 #47

i agree but... Mothdust Oct 2012 #49

Romney's biggest weakness is likeability bhikkhu Oct 2012 #50

Agree. hay rick Oct 2012 #62

You must live in a blue state. Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #51

I live in Michigan DissidentVoice Oct 2012 #83

I look forward to round two. AND three. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #52

Unfortunately ...... Obama did lose. flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #53

Debate Report Card flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #55

Chris Matthews - I have never agreed with you more than tonight !! flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #56

Why Mr. President Why ???? flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #57

Romney LIED repeatedly and still won the debate. Go figure !! flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #58

yeah in what world is the winner brightertomorrow Oct 2012 #73

It is in the world where... Springslips Oct 2012 #94

Mr. President, Please FIRE your entire Debating Advisory Crew and hire the folks at MSNBC immediate flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #59

I agree with your assessment BainsBane Oct 2012 #60

Report Card II flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #61

Anyway you look at it .... flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #63

OMG - My worst fears came true. Obama played safe. Bad choice. flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #64

As bad as Obama was ............ does it change my vote? Heck No ...... BUT .... flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #65

Bottom Line: flying-skeleton Oct 2012 #66

Mr OBama look too tired mshasta Oct 2012 #67

We know Romney mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2012 #69

If I was a Wall Street banker Meandering1 Oct 2012 #71

This was not a game changer because it is not a freakin' game. ancianita Oct 2012 #74

Was Obama REALLY so bad KinMd Oct 2012 #76

pretty much the subject of my OP demwing Oct 2012 #78

And the take away... Javaman Oct 2012 #81

President Obama was too nice DissidentVoice Oct 2012 #82

Romney had one other big goal that he didn't meet gollygee Oct 2012 #85

Hmmm...think I disagree demwing Oct 2012 #87

I've seen on the news regularly that his campaign was trying to "humanize" him gollygee Oct 2012 #88

lol, that's why candidates have advisors right? demwing Oct 2012 #93

Obama has got to get tough sevenseas Oct 2012 #89

Good points. bigwillq Oct 2012 #90

People are falling for MSM manipulation. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #91

Romney in the first Presidential debate: porphyrian Oct 2012 #92

Not a Game Changer OLDMDDEM Oct 2012 #95

I'm questioning whether I watched the same debate as others? nachosgrande Oct 2012 #96

Yes, Rmoney won the debate, but he didn't Don Draper Oct 2012 #97

Ryan-Biden debate Mayflower1 Oct 2012 #103

"Biden is pretty prone to gaffs" demwing Oct 2012 #107

Also, Biden is substantially more likable. Chan790 Oct 2012 #112

Romney said Obama was a liar marlakay Oct 2012 #98

Only the first round. jackbenimble Oct 2012 #100

Rob-me was on steroids or adderal or something. Have you ever seen Nitwitt like that before? He lies judesedit Oct 2012 #104

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #105

As soon as I saw Romney's eyes, I knew he was on something. He was actually trying to keep them smal judesedit Oct 2012 #106

Obama looked distracted and bored. spiderpig Oct 2012 #108

Assuming we know what "game" he was playing demwing Oct 2012 #111

I hope you're right. spiderpig Oct 2012 #116

Romney reminded me of the stereotypical car salesman demwing Oct 2012 #117

"Obama got off a few great sound-bites." I missed them. Could you give an example? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #110

Sure, but I'm not going to be a great quote hound demwing Oct 2012 #113

Only half right I'm afraid. FBaggins Oct 2012 #114

I'd agree, if Romenty were ahead demwing Oct 2012 #119

That isn't how it works. FBaggins Oct 2012 #122

I think you're wrong demwing Oct 2012 #124

I agree. nm rhett o rick Oct 2012 #115

Romney debate bounce fades fast. The stench of his lies endures & irritates the nostrils of voters. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #118

EXACTLY. Intrade has regained much of what was lost demwing Oct 2012 #120

Thank you! Perfect imagery! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #121

Good post, all good points Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #125

Ah, sanity. I completely agree. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #126

Rope-a-Dope danclinger1000 Oct 2012 #127

Agree. tnvoter Oct 2012 #128

There were low expectations for Romney to begin with Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #130

This is a good non-ridiculous analysis. D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #131

catchphrase: "He's out of touch" Peace Yogi Oct 2012 #132

I didn't think Romney did well AT ALL LittleGirl Oct 2012 #133

Nobody remembers the first debate after the last debate. JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #135

Sorry, but LynnTTT Oct 2012 #137

So true kimbutgar Oct 2012 #138

Calling MSNBC!! scgrad96 Oct 2012 #139

There is no talk on any of the news humbled_opinion Oct 2012 #140

While I haven't read through the thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #141