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In reply to the discussion: People are so proud to declare unhinged lying as winning. Lowering standards. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)33. The President
"No 'attack' is necessary. All that was required was a RESPONSE to the lies."
...responded when it was important to do so. There was no way he was going to stand there and responded to rapid fire lies. That would have been idiotic and a disaster.
Romney: Ill Cover Pre-Existing Conditions, Obama: No, You Wont
Benjy Sarlin
Challenged by President Obama during Wednesdays debate in Denver over how he would find insurance for the sick after repealing the Affordable Care Act, Mitt Romney asserted that he had a plan for those with pre-existing conditions.
Pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan, he said. Young people are able to stay on their family plan. That is already offered in the private marketplace. You do not need the government to mandate that.
He charged Obama with turning to an unelected board who will decide what kind of treatment you ought to have, a reference to an independent panel of experts created by the ACA tasked with controlling overall Medicare costs, but not individual patients treatments.
The only problem: Romney has made that guaranteed issue claim before, only to repeatedly have his campaign clarify that his unnamed plan for health care reform would not allow people with pre-existing condition to obtain insurance. It would only allow them to maintain continuous insurance, for example if they lose their job, something that is already in the law but often prohibitively expensive with employer subsidies. As recently as last month Romneys campaign confirmed his policy stance.
That is already the law, Obama said. That does not help millions of people out there with pre-existing conditions.
Obama went on to charge Romney with deliberately hiding his plans to repeal and replace not just the ACA but other major laws in order to keep unpalatable consequences from voters.
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/romney-ill-cover-pre-existing-conditions-obama-no-you-wont.php
Benjy Sarlin
Challenged by President Obama during Wednesdays debate in Denver over how he would find insurance for the sick after repealing the Affordable Care Act, Mitt Romney asserted that he had a plan for those with pre-existing conditions.
Pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan, he said. Young people are able to stay on their family plan. That is already offered in the private marketplace. You do not need the government to mandate that.
He charged Obama with turning to an unelected board who will decide what kind of treatment you ought to have, a reference to an independent panel of experts created by the ACA tasked with controlling overall Medicare costs, but not individual patients treatments.
The only problem: Romney has made that guaranteed issue claim before, only to repeatedly have his campaign clarify that his unnamed plan for health care reform would not allow people with pre-existing condition to obtain insurance. It would only allow them to maintain continuous insurance, for example if they lose their job, something that is already in the law but often prohibitively expensive with employer subsidies. As recently as last month Romneys campaign confirmed his policy stance.
That is already the law, Obama said. That does not help millions of people out there with pre-existing conditions.
Obama went on to charge Romney with deliberately hiding his plans to repeal and replace not just the ACA but other major laws in order to keep unpalatable consequences from voters.
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/romney-ill-cover-pre-existing-conditions-obama-no-you-wont.php
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People are so proud to declare unhinged lying as winning. Lowering standards. [View all]
ProSense
Oct 2012
OP
very good. and this is the message that needs to get out. why let the lies be a win? nt
seabeyond
Oct 2012
#3
I think there will be some blow back on this. Mitt's lies were incredibly easy to spot.
JoePhilly
Oct 2012
#5
We DON'T NEED ANOTHER LIAR IN CHIEF - been there done that under *ush. No thanks.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2012
#7
are you fuckin serious? he has accomplished a lot. not perfectly, but a lot. and women and gays
seabeyond
Oct 2012
#13
you throw out nonfactual garbage, i challenge you with truth and i am romney bully? more bullshit.
seabeyond
Oct 2012
#47
Good luck explaining away the 47% video. People won't forget that over a debate.
Indpndnt
Oct 2012
#97
What I saw was a man (Obama) who couldn't defend himself, much less you and I.
seabeyond
Oct 2012
#45
"You and I were not the target audience that needed to be reached last night. "
ProSense
Oct 2012
#34
"he rejected all the right wing bullshit he's been talking for the last 6 years"...
marions ghost
Oct 2012
#89
Yup. You don't come off strong looking at your toes and avoiding eye contact. n/t
Atypical Liberal
Oct 2012
#96
"Do you really think the Walmart worker who watched the debate knows ANY OF THAT?"
ProSense
Oct 2012
#36
Do you really think the Walmart worker was ever going to vote for President Obama
lalalu
Oct 2012
#49
I agree with Ed Schultz and Chris Matthews. I was unhappy. Why couldn't President Obama defend
RickFromMN
Oct 2012
#82
re:People are so proud to declare unhinged lying as winning. Lowering standards.
allan01
Oct 2012
#57
No, we are ashamed to say that the lies weren't called out, allowing them to grow legs. nt
LaydeeBug
Oct 2012
#66
I'm not ashamed to say I agree with you --- Obama missed about 4-5 chances to call bullshit...
RiverStone
Oct 2012
#99
That is very true. I just don't buy the whole "oh he *meant* to do that" meme.
LaydeeBug
Oct 2012
#106