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Mike 03

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20. I think it's reasonable to wait for better long-term data.

Wed Dec 9, 2020, 11:34 AM

Dec 2020

Besides, according to the NYT, many of us are almost last in line so I expect if there are issues they will come to light.

USUAL DISCLAIMER: I'm not anti-vax. I've taken all my vaccines and flu shots. This is a new kind of vaccine. We have press releases (and stock surges and insider trading) but not data, and no long-term data, but I'm listening to Dr. Fauci and watching what happens over the next few months. In the NYT, Dr. Paul Offit, who leads to crusade against Anti-Vaxxers, said he had concerns about the rush to produce these vaccines. Friendly reminder: Vioxx, a drug that killed more people than the Vietnam War (60,000, with 140,000 heart attacks), was also FDA approved.

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Survey: More than half of FDNY firefighters say they will refuse COVID vaccine [View all] progressoid Dec 2020 OP

Hate to say it.... BGBD Dec 2020 #1

That's not happening. Renew Deal Dec 2020 #3

or simply provide what was requested? I am NOT understanding the overt dismissiveness of well uponit7771 Dec 2020 #5

What more info do you expect? BGBD Dec 2020 #6

The fire fighters can give the questions, I just don't understand the jump to dismiss their concerns uponit7771 Dec 2020 #7

We clearly BGBD Dec 2020 #9

Yes we can, Europe proves we can control the spread with NPI and other countries have done uponit7771 Dec 2020 #13

No chance BGBD Dec 2020 #18

Not all of the minimum NPI steps are politicized and fining work place, bars etc that wont enforce uponit7771 Dec 2020 #19

It is safe. Turin_C3PO Dec 2020 #11

For everyone? Even pregnant women and all comorbidities? tia uponit7771 Dec 2020 #14

How many non-scientists understand the difference between an mRNA vaccine and other vaccines? milestogo Dec 2020 #24

People deserve to have it explained to them, transparency can defeat skepticism. uponit7771 Dec 2020 #27

Can't be done with vaccine under emergency authorization. LisaL Dec 2020 #15

So, early retirement to a Red state? Quite a few have a lot of soon to be available real estate. nt FreepFryer Dec 2020 #2

"Many FDNY members said they needed more information before taking the vaccine." Sounds logical uponit7771 Dec 2020 #4

That's how I feel about it, too. Just waiting a little leftyladyfrommo Dec 2020 #10

This is my exact position, wait a little while. They don't know how about comorbidities, children... uponit7771 Dec 2020 #16

It's kind of like buying a new car the 1st year it comes leftyladyfrommo Dec 2020 #22

Even my pharmacist said she is waiting marlakay Dec 2020 #30

I think it's reasonable to wait for better long-term data. Mike 03 Dec 2020 #20

+1, especially after what happened to the UK nurses. I'll wait uponit7771 Dec 2020 #21

What happened? Nt marlakay Dec 2020 #31

Looks like a bad allergic reaction to the drug. I would think Stage 3 trials would have flushed ... uponit7771 Dec 2020 #33

A minority of FDNY firefighters participated in the survey. David__77 Dec 2020 #8

I could see if FDNY wanted to phase it in, so as to not possibly impact the entire force at once. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #12

Send them home. Fire them. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #17

Not in NYC former9thward Dec 2020 #28

Pity. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #29

People want to see that the vaccine doesn't have serious problems BainsBane Dec 2020 #23

FDNY's new motto: Aristus Dec 2020 #25

They ought to lose their jobs and all related benefits. (nt) Paladin Dec 2020 #26

Over 3,000 US deaths from the virus today. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #32