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StarfishSaver

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29. Criminal law isn't a three out of four proposition

Sat Dec 12, 2020, 02:01 AM

Dec 2020

In order to be guilty of a crime, a person had to meet ALL of the elements of a crime, not just some of them. Force is an essential element of the crime and without it, the crime had not been committed.

And force, as set in the law, doesn't have the definition you're suggesting. Signing an amicus brief is not a use of "force" within the meaning of sedition laws. An amicus brief is a legal act which people have every right to do. It is NOT an act of sedition, regardless how much you try to argue otherwise.

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Citing 14th Amendment, Pascrell Says These GOP House Members Shouldn't Even Be Sworn In [View all] bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 OP

Hear! Hear! Laelth Dec 2020 #1

He is right, those that want to overthrow the popular will of the people really should OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2020 #2

What's bigger than sedition? EndlessWire Dec 2020 #4

Biden needs to change 71MM minds. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2020 #7

I appreciate your opinion. EndlessWire Dec 2020 #8

"This isn't a forgivable act." I totally agree! scarletwoman Dec 2020 #9

Prosecute them for what exactly? dware Dec 2020 #20

You call them seditious EndlessWire Dec 2020 #24

The hard part is proving INTENT. TigressDem Dec 2020 #31

The House has no power to "boot them" before being seated. And they have not committed the crime StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #16

Oh, let's do EndlessWire Dec 2020 #22

The dictionary definition of sedition is irrelevant to this discussion StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #23

The use of force EndlessWire Dec 2020 #26

They were certainly trying to FORCE us to have 4 more years of a dictator. TigressDem Dec 2020 #27

Criminal law isn't a three out of four proposition StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #29

BUT the law is not stating that FORCE is the ONLY way to conspire to overthrow... READ IT. TigressDem Dec 2020 #32

Think whatever you like StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #33

It is right there in the law. TigressDem Dec 2020 #34

Some of the 126, I'm sure, have been encouraging DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #37

A.C.C.O.U.N.T.A.B.I.L.I.T.Y. They don't want to serve the constitution, refuse the honor. Guilded Lilly Dec 2020 #3

Amen. Sogo Dec 2020 #25

Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2020 #5

Leave the stupid ideas to the Republicans. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #6

IKR? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #15

SCOTUS gives a massive Fuck You to the seditious traitors. RobertDevereaux Dec 2020 #10

Sounds good, but he's wrong about this StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #11

Aye, they crossed a line in trying to toss millions of citizens votes in states Trump lost. cstanleytech Dec 2020 #12

Even if they try it and it doesn't work, BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #13

Maybe to those who think politics is entertainment and sport StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #14

Like the Republicans? smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #18

And apparently some Democrats, as well. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #19

No, we are. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #21

Speaker Pelosi wouldn't even try or suggest it, dware Dec 2020 #17

Because Democrats want to be humiliated by the Supreme Court too? n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #40

Can individual states seek to withdraw a Representative? Boogiemack Dec 2020 #28

No. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #30

A lawsuit aimed squarely at the very footings of democracy is not a friendly act bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #35

Schmidt: Democracy poisoned bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #36

How about no committee appointments? eom Karma13612 Dec 2020 #38

IMO That is a step too far. Progressive dog Dec 2020 #39