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LovingA2andMI

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60. Agree....

Sun Dec 13, 2020, 03:39 PM

Dec 2020

It is hard being stuck inside however, in reality, we will be dealing with COVID for at least three years after wide distribution of the vaccine. Those with underlying conditions will need to continue to be careful after taking the doses as 0.5% is a small chance but it is not 100%. Also we do not know how long the antibodies created from the rMRA vaccine last. Is it forever, for a set number of years, is this an annual booster vaccine event?

There are many unknowns and I worry that many have been led down a pathway that the vaccine is the cure. It is a Treatment similar to the Cocktail Treatment it appears those with adverse reactions to COVID 19 cannot obtain outside of a Emergency Use Authorization that has not been widely shared and if they are a "Friend of Trump".

We have a long road to go here and expectations need to be set to coordinate with the reality of what will be faced.

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Why a University of Michigan professor voted 'No' on Pfizer's COVID vaccine [View all] LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 OP

The FDA Poobah was saying today that anyone allergic to any of the components of the vaccine should cwydro Dec 2020 #1

PEG. LisaL Dec 2020 #5

I don't know what that is. cwydro Dec 2020 #31

That would be... "polyethylene glycol" for those who aren't good with initials. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #34

PEG, Polyethylene glycol...aka Miralax. roamer65 Dec 2020 #52

If they list all the ingredients on one vaccine, the prone-to-panic public AllyCat Dec 2020 #7

So she doesn't think the vaccine is "safe and effective" but wants the vaccine released anyway? mathematic Dec 2020 #2

Re-Read.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #6

I re-read the part you bolded: Dr. Fuller says it would be better to release the vaccine gradually mathematic Dec 2020 #12

Considering we don't have enough of the vaccine for everyone we are releasing it gradually. LisaL Dec 2020 #21

+1, Red Don's screw up her actually helped vs hurt ... dumb luck uponit7771 Dec 2020 #32

Safe for whom zipplewrath Dec 2020 #20

Great Point! LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #25

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #33

Well they ducked losing to the Buckeyes so she still wanted a big loss for the Big Blue underpants Dec 2020 #3

Huh? LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #8

No I'm an Ohio State fan just making a joke. underpants Dec 2020 #16

Buckeyes zipplewrath Dec 2020 #23

It's a nut underpants Dec 2020 #51

I'll take hers, Corgigal Dec 2020 #4

Two more months of controlled studies? LisaL Dec 2020 #9

The Initial Sample Group.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #14

I realize that. My point is, how many people will die during those two months and how many get LisaL Dec 2020 #17

The risks of Covid-19 are much greater than any risks in the vaccine, IMO DrToast Dec 2020 #28

With 2500 people dying a day... Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #49

Great. There are plenty of other folks that look at the risk/benefit analysis and AllyCat Dec 2020 #10

Those who question the Scientific Method.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #18

These vaccines still followed the scientific method. AllyCat Dec 2020 #36

Actually, 14 Scientists from the FDA decided this.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #39

What about all the scientists who worked to bring this about? AllyCat Dec 2020 #42

There are upwards of 9 companies that are working on Vaccines for COVID LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #44

I think risk management plays a strong role here. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #50

There do not have to be a "Risk of Life" LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #57

There is no proof of a 100% effective treatment. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #59

Was it said that the Cocktail was 100% Treatment? LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #63

With all due respect.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #72

I'm With You ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #65

This is a weird post. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #74

So the good doctor recommends that the vaccine should be given gradually, SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #11

There is a Treatment by the way.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #24

I heard estimates that this particular treatment that rudi / trump / etc. costs upwards of $100-$200 SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #27

Exactly!!! LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #37

I read there were 108 treatments and US govt bought all of them. LizBeth Dec 2020 #38

How Many "Friends of Trump" have had COVID.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #41

Three we know, Trump, Christie and Guiliani. n LizBeth Dec 2020 #45

And Carson.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #68

Yep yep. There were some wealthy donors too, that got sick. LizBeth Dec 2020 #71

The antibodies are expensive and difficult to make. LisaL Dec 2020 #40

That treatment also has potential unknown side effects Meowmee Dec 2020 #75

Because Trump's admin is so incompetent, it will be released relatively gradually in the US, rather tblue37 Dec 2020 #13

Yep. It will be pretty slow. LisaL Dec 2020 #19

Exactly!!! LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #30

Should have vaccinated Nursing Home staff and left the patients alone, Blue_true Dec 2020 #48

Of Course That POS Trump will.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #58

The UK is also our Guinea pig. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #15

I'd wondered about the four nays. ucrdem Dec 2020 #22

What is the status of the five states that said they needed to have their own independent approval ? MichMan Dec 2020 #26

My governor in Oregon marlakay Dec 2020 #35

K&R, there is ONLY 2 MONTHS OF SAFETY STUDY for the current vaccines. I 100% agree with this uponit7771 Dec 2020 #29

That is what she is stating. LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #43

My understanding is we're supposed to get the data for the sample group this week uponit7771 Dec 2020 #46

Thanks! LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #69

Sanjay Gupta was explaining this on CNN DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #56

Great Point!!!! LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #67

Now that the clinical trial is over, the question DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #79

A much better example of groupthink kcr Dec 2020 #47

I think Moderna's vaccine will get a stronger vote of approval. roamer65 Dec 2020 #53

What is the reason to believe it's a bit safer? LisaL Dec 2020 #62

A report I heard on the news that it had less side effects during the clinical trial. roamer65 Dec 2020 #78

It is a possibly..... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #66

Frankly, I cannot find fault with her reasoning and logic. msfiddlestix Dec 2020 #54

+1, honestly I don't trust Trump. I can imagine him doing something stupid to make people uponit7771 Dec 2020 #77

I have been dealing with a lot when it comes to the virus JonLP24 Dec 2020 #55

Agree.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #60

Her reason may be reasonable, but her math sucks. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #61

Scroll up... LovingA2andMI Dec 2020 #64

Have you ever performed a safety risk analysis? Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #73

Totally fair point. If the pandemic was handled properly in the first place, we'd have the luxury... Blasphemer Dec 2020 #70

My question about it. moondust Dec 2020 #76

Wow. An editorial. By one author. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #80