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hlthe2b

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25. Start of with the National Popular Vote compact. Read up on it.

Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:52 PM

Dec 2020

Even Laurence Tribe believes it may pass constitutional muster and is in favor of it. Don't let the naysayers (who largely have NOT read about it and do not understand it automatically tell you it won't work, it is unconstitutional, we should just give up--they don't know and don't bother to read up on it**)

Colorado has passed it through both the legislature AND ballot initiative.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/critics-of-electoral-college-push-for-popular-vote-compact

https://ballotpedia.org/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

National Popular Vote Myths and the US Consitution
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/section_9.1

http://www.every-vote-equal.com/sites/default/files/everyvoteequal-4th-ed-2013-02-21.pdf

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Cook Political: Trump was only 65,009 votes away from winning -- despite Biden's 7 million vote lead [View all] pnwmom Dec 2020 OP

That's frightening Stinky The Clown Dec 2020 #1

Terrifying. pnwmom Dec 2020 #4

Horrifying Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #9

The Electoral College is a huge scam. It needs to die. Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 #2

It was created to count black people for representation purposes without allowing them to vote RAB910 Dec 2020 #11

This! bamagal62 Dec 2020 #42

Ban the EC. nt JanMichael Dec 2020 #3

The American people need to demand getting rid of this bullshit. madaboutharry Dec 2020 #5

Won't happen until a Democrat loses the popular vote but wins the EC. Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #13

So seven million voters were disenfranchised by the Electoral Vote pecosbob Dec 2020 #6

In 2004, Kerry came within 37,547 votes of winning despite losing the popular vote by three millions Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #7

1st time I've seen that #. But winning EC (lose pop) for Dems not recently or in the last 40 years. JanMichael Dec 2020 #12

I believe 1888 was the last time it happened in any election prior to 2000. Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #16

There's people who believe Kennedy actually lost the popular vote in 1960 due to Alabama's voting... Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #32

It's actually never happened moose65 Dec 2020 #41

actually it never has dsc Dec 2020 #45

Where are you getting that number? Rstrstx Dec 2020 #23

I love when people answer their own question! Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #24

That's why Trumpy thought he had it in the bag. LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #8

Yes. Even with pandemic..if trump just pretended he cared Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #10

That's why the Democratic Party needs to change Sympthsical Dec 2020 #14

Preach! BarackTheVote Dec 2020 #20

We won the presidency because Biden was the nominee. still_one Dec 2020 #22

You're not necessarily wrong however Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #54

And many here dismissed. . . pat_k Dec 2020 #15

That is why it is paramount that we must ALWAYS win and keep the blue wall intact still_one Dec 2020 #17

That is why it is paramount that we must ALWAYS win and keep the blue wall intact still_one Dec 2020 #18

Absolutely underscores why we must get rid of the EC. hlthe2b Dec 2020 #19

How will we get 3/4 of states to ratify? pnwmom Dec 2020 #21

Start of with the National Popular Vote compact. Read up on it. hlthe2b Dec 2020 #25

I know about it. How does it work with the high number of states that disallow faithless electors" pnwmom Dec 2020 #28

This is addressed in the links provided. SCOTUS ruled that states can enforce faithless electors hlthe2b Dec 2020 #30

If states can enforce those statutes, that would seem to hobble the National Vote compact. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #33

No. Please read this link hlthe2b Dec 2020 #34

they aren't faithless if they are voting as their state tells them to dsc Dec 2020 #46

Where do the state laws say that? n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #47

that is the entire point of the compact dsc Dec 2020 #48

But there was a court decision last summer that seemed to make that tougher. pnwmom Dec 2020 #49

nope it is the state not the voter to whom they have to be faithful dsc Dec 2020 #50

The Electoral College will stay until Republicans lose the presidency due to it. Poiuyt Dec 2020 #39

Post # 25, 30, 34 hlthe2b Dec 2020 #43

and why post this, why make us feel even MORE terrible because of this??? a kennedy Dec 2020 #26

It's a reminder that we have to work just as hard to take over as many state houses as we can pnwmom Dec 2020 #31

That's terrifying, and we're still paying the price for 2016. yardwork Dec 2020 #27

This is why we can't have rebel factions who pout if their candidate/s don't win the primary AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #29

Mass Disinformation Has Brought This About colsohlibgal Dec 2020 #35

A lot of you have this backward BGBD Dec 2020 #36

This is surprising but true MillenialDemLXXXIII Dec 2020 #37

Sure, but look at how BGBD Dec 2020 #44

These same people thought it was "Armageddon" when Obama won BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 #53

I don't know what the odds are... The Genealogist Dec 2020 #38

It was close to a nightmare scenario. David__77 Dec 2020 #40

I wrote a long post about the EC and then deleted it. bamagal62 Dec 2020 #51

EC was a bad idea. moondust Dec 2020 #52

Horrifying. Everyone who complains "get rid of the EC," though, is NOT serious Hortensis Dec 2020 #55

We must remain united against fascism, and Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #56