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23. You said it has "moved so far to the right" and "It's been moving right since 1984"

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Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:06 AM

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Should the DNC now hire Steve Schmidt? [View all] Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 OP

No Gore1FL Dec 2020 #1

Tulsi Gabbard was the one that moved things to the Right JI7 Dec 2020 #4

It's been moving right since 1984. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #5

Nope, the Democratic Party is more liberal now than it has ever been JI7 Dec 2020 #6

Sure. Whatever you say. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #9

Yes, It sure is . Now more women and minorities are gaining power . JI7 Dec 2020 #10

That's one measure. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #11

Women and minorities gaining power is the policy issue. JI7 Dec 2020 #12

not really. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #14

Civil Rights, Equal Rights, Fairness , are policy issues. JI7 Dec 2020 #15

So Sarah Palin is a good choice for office? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #17

HArris is one of the woman I'm talking about. Which Democratic Party women are like Sarah Palin ? JI7 Dec 2020 #20

That wasn't you argument. Goal post moves are not useful in debates. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #21

There is are no goal post moves. You just want to dismiss the issue of Civil Rights , Equality , etc JI7 Dec 2020 #24

I don't want Republicans running the Democratic party, actually. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #27

I don't either that's why we have to watch out for Obvious Right Wing Frauds like Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Dec 2020 #32

I like give 5 fucks abut Gabbard. I am not sure why you keep bringing her up. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #34

LOL , If you were truly concerned about the moving right, You would care about Tulsi Gabbard and JI7 Dec 2020 #37

Do you realize that Schmidt publicly regretted the Palin selection OnDoutside Dec 2020 #25

News Flash: Schmidt is a conservative Gore1FL Dec 2020 #28

News Flash Update : Schmidt is a conservative Democrat. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #66

If he is a Democrat that means we are moving to the right. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #76

It means he is moving to the left. betsuni Dec 2020 #77

No, he's moving to the left of center. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #78

I hope he brings the Democrats with him Gore1FL Dec 2020 #80

All is relative. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #82

+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #63

yep and why we got our asses kicked at state and local elections as well as Senate and House races beachbumbob Dec 2020 #69

How in 2020 is the Democratic Party far right? betsuni Dec 2020 #16

Far right? No. 1970s GOP is what I compared it to. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #19

No it's not . The Republican Party in the 1970s embraced the Southern Strategy with Nixon JI7 Dec 2020 #22

And they were considering healthcare. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #30

Obama did the most in expanding health care for millions in Decades JI7 Dec 2020 #35

And that was awesome. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #38

People are fighting for it and none did more than Obama who is a Democrat . JI7 Dec 2020 #42

No dispute there. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #44

You said it has "moved so far to the right" and "It's been moving right since 1984" betsuni Dec 2020 #23

OK let's start with 1988 Gore1FL Dec 2020 #26

lol, those are about winning electoral votes . You didn't mention policy . Dukakis, Gore, Kerry , JI7 Dec 2020 #29

policy was boiled down to left vs right Gore1FL Dec 2020 #31

We lost because of massive numbers of white people in the country. Now with more minorites we are JI7 Dec 2020 #33

Maybe we lost because we quit standing for our values. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #36

no, white people vote republican because they are racist, not because they have values JI7 Dec 2020 #40

Do you have stats to back that up, or should I just believe you? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #41

Yes, White People have voted majority Republican in every election after Civil Rights was passed JI7 Dec 2020 #43

I was hoping for links rather than beliefs. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #45

There are many links, You can look it up. Do you really not know majority of white people JI7 Dec 2020 #47

I could look it up, I guess Gore1FL Dec 2020 #51

It's like asking me for a link to Joe Biden winning the election . Google Race, election (add year) JI7 Dec 2020 #54

You seriously don't think there aren't stats up the wazoo kcr Dec 2020 #81

It should be easy for the claimant to provide to back the assertion, then. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #89

The Democratic Patty has not moved to the right. betsuni Dec 2020 #39

The Democrats have supported Reaganomics since the 1984 election. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #46

Clinton and Obama raised taxes on the wealthy . JI7 Dec 2020 #48

to 70%? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #49

People don't want a 70 percent tax raise . That's why they voted for a Republican Congress . JI7 Dec 2020 #52

I do. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #53

Try to get it done state level first . JI7 Dec 2020 #55

States don't control federal taxation. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #56

There are state taxes . My point is that people don't support it of either party . JI7 Dec 2020 #58

That was my point too. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #60

That's not what Reaganomics is . Democrats still Raise Taxes on the wealthy . Just because it's not JI7 Dec 2020 #61

Trickle-down economics is a Republican policy. betsuni Dec 2020 #64

When, since Mondale, has a Democratic candidate run on restoring the top rate to pre-Reagan? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #88

No. We all get your point StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #83

Then I guess you don't get my point Gore1FL Dec 2020 #87

No they haven't. It's 2020. Trickle down economics is not a Democratic policy. betsuni Dec 2020 #50

when have the Democrats proposed raising the top tier to pre-Reagan levels? nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #57

It's 2020. betsuni Dec 2020 #62

So we have to live under the false premises put forth by the GOP 40 years ago? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #90

I would! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2020 #2

If they don't they should shamelessly mimic him every time they talk about Republicans BeyondGeography Dec 2020 #3

He can provide strategy.... LeftInTX Dec 2020 #7

I think he should just continue what he is doing with the Lincoln Project JI7 Dec 2020 #8

As I said in OP, messaging, media creation and placement. Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 #13

He is also involved with the Battleground podcast with David Plouffe. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #18

Here is a novel idea quickesst Dec 2020 #59

Yes Hamlette Dec 2020 #65

No, never! Sewa Dec 2020 #67

Ideological Purity Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #68

I would have Schmidt lead the charge to convince more republicans to QUIT the GOP and beachbumbob Dec 2020 #70

For those thinking the DNC is a diabolical rigging neoliberal superpower, betsuni Dec 2020 #71

You might want to check out this Twitter thread by a new DNC member JHB Dec 2020 #72

The media will grab him. He is so good as a leftyladyfrommo Dec 2020 #73

No. CentralMass Dec 2020 #74

Absolutely! I think that's a great idea! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #75

I believe he would be a great addition to the Democratic Party. katmondoo Dec 2020 #79

No. We can listen to him but don't put him on our payroll. Hotler Dec 2020 #84

Steve could help the party Gothmog Dec 2020 #85

Hope Anna Navarro & Nicolle Wallace become Dems. Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 #86