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Gore1FL

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26. OK let's start with 1988

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:10 AM

Dec 2020

In 1988 we had to have Lloyd Bentsen as VP, because he was conservative and the only way to win was to go to the center.
In 1992 we had to have two southern Democrats because the only way to win was to go to the center.
In 2000 Gore picked Joe Lieberman as VP, because the only way to win was to go to the center.
In 2004 We Picked Kerry over Dean, because the only way to win was to go to the center.
In 2016 we picked hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, because the only way to win was to go to the center.

In 2020 we cheer a person who worked for George W. Bush and John McCain because he is going to join us and move us to the right.

This is bullshit.

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Should the DNC now hire Steve Schmidt? [View all] Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 OP

No Gore1FL Dec 2020 #1

Tulsi Gabbard was the one that moved things to the Right JI7 Dec 2020 #4

It's been moving right since 1984. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #5

Nope, the Democratic Party is more liberal now than it has ever been JI7 Dec 2020 #6

Sure. Whatever you say. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #9

Yes, It sure is . Now more women and minorities are gaining power . JI7 Dec 2020 #10

That's one measure. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #11

Women and minorities gaining power is the policy issue. JI7 Dec 2020 #12

not really. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #14

Civil Rights, Equal Rights, Fairness , are policy issues. JI7 Dec 2020 #15

So Sarah Palin is a good choice for office? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #17

HArris is one of the woman I'm talking about. Which Democratic Party women are like Sarah Palin ? JI7 Dec 2020 #20

That wasn't you argument. Goal post moves are not useful in debates. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #21

There is are no goal post moves. You just want to dismiss the issue of Civil Rights , Equality , etc JI7 Dec 2020 #24

I don't want Republicans running the Democratic party, actually. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #27

I don't either that's why we have to watch out for Obvious Right Wing Frauds like Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Dec 2020 #32

I like give 5 fucks abut Gabbard. I am not sure why you keep bringing her up. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #34

LOL , If you were truly concerned about the moving right, You would care about Tulsi Gabbard and JI7 Dec 2020 #37

Do you realize that Schmidt publicly regretted the Palin selection OnDoutside Dec 2020 #25

News Flash: Schmidt is a conservative Gore1FL Dec 2020 #28

News Flash Update : Schmidt is a conservative Democrat. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #66

If he is a Democrat that means we are moving to the right. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #76

It means he is moving to the left. betsuni Dec 2020 #77

No, he's moving to the left of center. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #78

I hope he brings the Democrats with him Gore1FL Dec 2020 #80

All is relative. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #82

+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #63

yep and why we got our asses kicked at state and local elections as well as Senate and House races beachbumbob Dec 2020 #69

How in 2020 is the Democratic Party far right? betsuni Dec 2020 #16

Far right? No. 1970s GOP is what I compared it to. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #19

No it's not . The Republican Party in the 1970s embraced the Southern Strategy with Nixon JI7 Dec 2020 #22

And they were considering healthcare. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #30

Obama did the most in expanding health care for millions in Decades JI7 Dec 2020 #35

And that was awesome. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #38

People are fighting for it and none did more than Obama who is a Democrat . JI7 Dec 2020 #42

No dispute there. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #44

You said it has "moved so far to the right" and "It's been moving right since 1984" betsuni Dec 2020 #23

OK let's start with 1988 Gore1FL Dec 2020 #26

lol, those are about winning electoral votes . You didn't mention policy . Dukakis, Gore, Kerry , JI7 Dec 2020 #29

policy was boiled down to left vs right Gore1FL Dec 2020 #31

We lost because of massive numbers of white people in the country. Now with more minorites we are JI7 Dec 2020 #33

Maybe we lost because we quit standing for our values. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #36

no, white people vote republican because they are racist, not because they have values JI7 Dec 2020 #40

Do you have stats to back that up, or should I just believe you? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #41

Yes, White People have voted majority Republican in every election after Civil Rights was passed JI7 Dec 2020 #43

I was hoping for links rather than beliefs. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #45

There are many links, You can look it up. Do you really not know majority of white people JI7 Dec 2020 #47

I could look it up, I guess Gore1FL Dec 2020 #51

It's like asking me for a link to Joe Biden winning the election . Google Race, election (add year) JI7 Dec 2020 #54

You seriously don't think there aren't stats up the wazoo kcr Dec 2020 #81

It should be easy for the claimant to provide to back the assertion, then. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #89

The Democratic Patty has not moved to the right. betsuni Dec 2020 #39

The Democrats have supported Reaganomics since the 1984 election. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #46

Clinton and Obama raised taxes on the wealthy . JI7 Dec 2020 #48

to 70%? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #49

People don't want a 70 percent tax raise . That's why they voted for a Republican Congress . JI7 Dec 2020 #52

I do. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #53

Try to get it done state level first . JI7 Dec 2020 #55

States don't control federal taxation. nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #56

There are state taxes . My point is that people don't support it of either party . JI7 Dec 2020 #58

That was my point too. Gore1FL Dec 2020 #60

That's not what Reaganomics is . Democrats still Raise Taxes on the wealthy . Just because it's not JI7 Dec 2020 #61

Trickle-down economics is a Republican policy. betsuni Dec 2020 #64

When, since Mondale, has a Democratic candidate run on restoring the top rate to pre-Reagan? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #88

No. We all get your point StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #83

Then I guess you don't get my point Gore1FL Dec 2020 #87

No they haven't. It's 2020. Trickle down economics is not a Democratic policy. betsuni Dec 2020 #50

when have the Democrats proposed raising the top tier to pre-Reagan levels? nt Gore1FL Dec 2020 #57

It's 2020. betsuni Dec 2020 #62

So we have to live under the false premises put forth by the GOP 40 years ago? Gore1FL Dec 2020 #90

I would! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2020 #2

If they don't they should shamelessly mimic him every time they talk about Republicans BeyondGeography Dec 2020 #3

He can provide strategy.... LeftInTX Dec 2020 #7

I think he should just continue what he is doing with the Lincoln Project JI7 Dec 2020 #8

As I said in OP, messaging, media creation and placement. Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 #13

He is also involved with the Battleground podcast with David Plouffe. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #18

Here is a novel idea quickesst Dec 2020 #59

Yes Hamlette Dec 2020 #65

No, never! Sewa Dec 2020 #67

Ideological Purity Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #68

I would have Schmidt lead the charge to convince more republicans to QUIT the GOP and beachbumbob Dec 2020 #70

For those thinking the DNC is a diabolical rigging neoliberal superpower, betsuni Dec 2020 #71

You might want to check out this Twitter thread by a new DNC member JHB Dec 2020 #72

The media will grab him. He is so good as a leftyladyfrommo Dec 2020 #73

No. CentralMass Dec 2020 #74

Absolutely! I think that's a great idea! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #75

I believe he would be a great addition to the Democratic Party. katmondoo Dec 2020 #79

No. We can listen to him but don't put him on our payroll. Hotler Dec 2020 #84

Steve could help the party Gothmog Dec 2020 #85

Hope Anna Navarro & Nicolle Wallace become Dems. Funtatlaguy Dec 2020 #86