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In reply to the discussion: Ocasio-Cortez takes direct shot at Pelosi and Schumer [View all]bigtree
(94,696 posts)36. you should realize neither Politico or Intercept provided any quotes supporting their premises
...and that AOC said reasonable things which you may or may not agree with.
But I can't find where she challenged the leadership the way Politico describes, not in any quote produced. Wonder why?
If you create that vacuum, there are so many nefarious forces at play to fill that vacuum with something even worse, she told Jeremy Scahill during an interview aired Wednesday on Intercepted this week.
Ocasio-Cortez argued that there are no viable alternatives for House or Senate leadership at the moment because the caucuss current leaders spent a number of years concentrating power without any real grooming of a next generation of leadership.
A lot of this is not just about these two personalities, but also about the structural shifts that these two personalities have led in their time in leadership, Ocasio-Cortez said. The structural shifts of power in the House, both in process and rule, to concentrate power in party leadership of both parties, frankly, but in Democratic Party leadership to such a degree that an individual member has far less power than they did 30, 40, 50 years ago.
This dynamic is what pushes the really talented members of Congress that do come along to leave or run for statewide office instead. But Pelosi has also indicated that this upcoming term could be her last, and the left isnt really making a plan for that either, Ocasio-Cortez added. So I do think that its something that we really need to think about.
If progressives do threaten to withhold their support from Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez said, their demand shouldnt be merely for a floor vote on Medicare for All, which is sure to fail. Instead, she believes, progressives should fight some of the bigger structural obstacles in the way of Medicare for All, like pay-go, an austerity provision that makes it difficult for Democrats to pass more ambitious policies, or replacing conservative Democratic Rep. Richie Neal as head of the Ways and Means Committee. We are currently negotiating to get and work towards real material concessions for the left that can move things into place, to help build power for the next two years, she said.
The New York congresswoman shot down the possibility of running for the position any time soon. The House is extraordinarily complex and Im not ready, she said. It cant be me. I know that I couldnt do that job.
https://theintercept.com/2020/12/16/aoc-nancy-pelosi-needs-to-go-but-theres-nobody-to-replace-her-yet/
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Well, if she can't get support from the Democratic mainstream, she can't win.
Hortensis
Dec 2020
#76
There are worse things than being a lifer in the House...I don't see her winning statewide in
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#113
This is not the time to change leadership. We have had to work hard just to maintain our Democracy.
katmondoo
Dec 2020
#4
I'm not convinced they actually like McConnell. Silence isn't always agreement. I think they are
Vivienne235729
Dec 2020
#193
McConnell was elected to the Senate in 1984. Long before the fascists took over and they
Autumn
Dec 2020
#195
you should realize neither Politico or Intercept provided any quotes supporting their premises
bigtree
Dec 2020
#36
Yep. As for your fart analogy, consider this: if three people are on an elevator and someone farts..
George II
Dec 2020
#84
She has much to offer, a lot of natural "gifts." She also has a potentially self-defeating ego
hlthe2b
Dec 2020
#9
She offers challenging discussion. I think current Democratic leadership is equipped for that.
ancianita
Dec 2020
#14
We are barely hanging onto the House and trying to win the Senate. We need unity not endless
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#119
The time before the 117th is the time for discussing leadership. One opinion is not endless division
ancianita
Dec 2020
#130
Happy holidays! We should be celebrating the 35 Democrats it lists who WON all across the USA!
ancianita
Dec 2020
#131
Looking at the intercept article they don't quote AOC saying those words, I'll wait
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#16
Especially if you are supporting someone like Sanders who has very little accomplishment
JI7
Dec 2020
#107
I won't give him, just his ideas, credit for getting 35 new democratic socialists into Congress.
ancianita
Dec 2020
#144
I don't believe you don't know, but I'll go along, since DU discussed this through the general.
ancianita
Dec 2020
#152
Really. Can you link the public option and Green New Deal sites under Obama?
ancianita
Dec 2020
#159
Were they others' ideas prior to Sanders? Many of his proposals have been on record from others....
George II
Dec 2020
#190
Old IS the issue. When one complains that the party had "failed at grooming the next generation of..
George II
Dec 2020
#139
Yes, it's a Politico article. Cobble together a few 3rd hand rumors, imply (or even say outright)..
George II
Dec 2020
#172
AOC seems to have no problem with Nancy either. I won't say the "She's old" part though.
Autumn
Dec 2020
#44
The headline is, the article seems to be a bit different. Bernie also isn't Senate leadership. nt
Autumn
Dec 2020
#52
Agree, there seems to be no problems between them and a mutual respect. Unlike Manchin's
Autumn
Dec 2020
#66
The big tent has been telling the liberal wing of the party to sit down & be quiet for decades. -nt
CrispyQ
Dec 2020
#118
How old is Bernie Sanders again? At this specific time, is this really helpful? The fact is that
still_one
Dec 2020
#31
No doubt. It would be interesting to see how she would do if she ran for Mayor of NY
still_one
Dec 2020
#54
I'd give her and the 35 other just-elected Democratic Socialists more time. They'll get there and
ancianita
Dec 2020
#72
I agree but AOC seems to catch a lot of hell around here for voicing her opinion
jcgoldie
Dec 2020
#59
The HISTORIC, first (and only) Female Democratic Speaker of the House. All I can say is...
George II
Dec 2020
#121
We might recognize that we're not her intended audience, which is national young voters.
ancianita
Dec 2020
#77
She's not intending to divide anything. You keep using "divide the party."That's your interpretation
ancianita
Dec 2020
#100
I hear you and disagree. That's exactly what Republicans do. We're transparent.
ancianita
Dec 2020
#140
Don't over react to this. Her comments don't shake the foundations of our democracy OR of our Party
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2020
#79
I'm not going to click on the link. Did she offer any names for possible replacements?
George II
Dec 2020
#81
From what I read on Twitter, she's not all that complementary toward Democrats.
George II
Dec 2020
#111
Do people here think that Pelosi (81) and Schumer (70) should be leaders forever? n/t
Yavin4
Dec 2020
#102
I doubt she would win a primary. Running statewide is very different than running in a deep blue
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#126
Not taking that bet! Should we be surprised that it took 178 posts to see this?
Bongo Prophet
Dec 2020
#187