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In reply to the discussion: Steve Schmidt has been a Democrat for only a day and already.... [View all]LeftInTX
(34,373 posts)175. It's been around longer than Bush
I knew someone who was employed by the Democratic Party who called it that..(But she was born in the late 1990's) Her parents are committed Democrats also, so I think she learned the phrase at home. She is from a very red area of Texas, so maybe everyone over there calls it that? We had to correct her.
I hear it called "Democrat Party" by a few native Texans now and then. Most of them have southern accents. (All of them are Democrats). When I hear it from other Democrats, I think more of bad grammar than something malicious.
Bush took advantage of it, but he didn't make up the usage. Bush probably heard it in Midland growing up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
Early 20th century
The 1919 New Teachers' and Pupils' Cyclopaedia entry for Woodrow Wilson states that "In 1912, Wilson was the Democrat Party nominee for President ..."[25] On July 14, 1922, a newspaper in Keytesville, Missouri, posted an advertisement for its primary elections with the Democratic candidates identified as "Representing: Democrat Party".[26]
Late 20th century
The noun-as-adjective has been used by Republican leaders since the 1940s, and in most GOP national platforms since 1948. By the early 1950s, the term was in widespread use among Republicans of all factions.[27] When Senator Thruston Ballard Morton became chairman of the Republican National Committee in 1959, he indicated that he had always said Democratic Party and would continue to do so, which contrasted with his predecessor, Meade Alcorn, and with National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman Barry Goldwater, both of whom used Democrat Party.[28] According to Congressional Quarterly, at the 1968 Republican National Convention "the GOP did revert to the epithet of 'Democrat' party. The phrase had been used in 1952 and 1956 but not in 1960 and 1964".[4]
According to William Safire, Minnesota Governor Harold Stassen, campaign manager to Republican Wendell Willkie during the 1940 presidential campaign, explained that because the Democratic Party was at that time partly controlled by undemocratic city bosses, "by Hague in New Jersey, Pendergast in Missouri and Kelly-Nash in Chicago, [it] should not be called a 'Democratic Party.' It should be called the 'Democrat Party.'"[29]
Columnist Russell Baker wrote in 1976:
The origin of this illiterate phrase, goes back, I believe to the era of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy ... The chief trouble with "the Democrat party" is that it makes the Republicans saying it sound both illiterate and coy, and, so, is like a shotgun that is all kick and no fire ... A party whose membership is down to 22 percent of the electorate, as the Republican party is, hardly needs ways to irritate voters from the opposing party whom it must seduce if it is to succeed.[30]
During the 1984 Republican National Convention, use of the term was a point of contention among the delegates.[31] When a member of the Republican platform committee asked unanimous consent to change the phrasing of a platform amendment to read Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party, New York Representative Jack Kemp objected, saying that would be "an insult to our Democratic friends;" the committee dropped the proposal.[6]
The 1919 New Teachers' and Pupils' Cyclopaedia entry for Woodrow Wilson states that "In 1912, Wilson was the Democrat Party nominee for President ..."[25] On July 14, 1922, a newspaper in Keytesville, Missouri, posted an advertisement for its primary elections with the Democratic candidates identified as "Representing: Democrat Party".[26]
Late 20th century
The noun-as-adjective has been used by Republican leaders since the 1940s, and in most GOP national platforms since 1948. By the early 1950s, the term was in widespread use among Republicans of all factions.[27] When Senator Thruston Ballard Morton became chairman of the Republican National Committee in 1959, he indicated that he had always said Democratic Party and would continue to do so, which contrasted with his predecessor, Meade Alcorn, and with National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman Barry Goldwater, both of whom used Democrat Party.[28] According to Congressional Quarterly, at the 1968 Republican National Convention "the GOP did revert to the epithet of 'Democrat' party. The phrase had been used in 1952 and 1956 but not in 1960 and 1964".[4]
According to William Safire, Minnesota Governor Harold Stassen, campaign manager to Republican Wendell Willkie during the 1940 presidential campaign, explained that because the Democratic Party was at that time partly controlled by undemocratic city bosses, "by Hague in New Jersey, Pendergast in Missouri and Kelly-Nash in Chicago, [it] should not be called a 'Democratic Party.' It should be called the 'Democrat Party.'"[29]
Columnist Russell Baker wrote in 1976:
The origin of this illiterate phrase, goes back, I believe to the era of Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy ... The chief trouble with "the Democrat party" is that it makes the Republicans saying it sound both illiterate and coy, and, so, is like a shotgun that is all kick and no fire ... A party whose membership is down to 22 percent of the electorate, as the Republican party is, hardly needs ways to irritate voters from the opposing party whom it must seduce if it is to succeed.[30]
During the 1984 Republican National Convention, use of the term was a point of contention among the delegates.[31] When a member of the Republican platform committee asked unanimous consent to change the phrasing of a platform amendment to read Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party, New York Representative Jack Kemp objected, saying that would be "an insult to our Democratic friends;" the committee dropped the proposal.[6]
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I would not ever have a pit bull or other killer dog. No way would I ever trust them
Dream Girl
Dec 2020
#200
A demonstrated enemy who has shown he will knife his allies in the back when it becomes convenient
Miguelito Loveless
Dec 2020
#22
"his past ALLEGIANCE to the GOP", that's pretty clear, and he certainly has done that:
George II
Dec 2020
#204
It's really encouraging that you posted his tweet where he renounces his membership....
George II
Dec 2020
#270
As I said - reputiate/renounce. Whatever. I conducted two English lessons yesterday...
George II
Dec 2020
#275
Nope, I certainly don't. But you rewriting your post (didn't check to see if you did so....
George II
Dec 2020
#281
I call it not supporting a fascist takeover of the presidency and applaud Steve Schmidt for it. I
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#172
People always want to throw history at me...some I was there for...some I wasn't...
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#190
Not exactly a biblical scholar but I'm pretty sure Jesus had been gone a pretty good while.....
jaxexpat
Dec 2020
#21
It's quite unfair, but Murray missed out on being inducted into the TV Hall of Fame cause he wasn't
Bucky
Dec 2020
#294
And if Trump switched his party affiliation, would that rule apply to Trump?
Caliman73
Dec 2020
#146
I like him and I believe he can become an outstanding Democrat. He knows how to react to the
katmondoo
Dec 2020
#53
Schmidt has done more good to Dems, especially this year, and done much less harm to
empedocles
Dec 2020
#232
Elizaabeth Warren was a Republican until she was 47. Does this apply to her too?
octoberlib
Dec 2020
#67
He is a conservative. As to vile, I'm not seeing a lot of corruption in his past.
PatrickforO
Dec 2020
#110
I Like Steve and Am Glad He's Become a Democrat - People Grow nd Change - They Deserve That Option
Indykatie
Dec 2020
#116
I listen to him quite often...and I think he was an honorable man. My own brother was a conservative
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#127
By what right do you 'require anything' Are you the pure gate keeper of the Democratic Party? Sorry
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#182
People are switching because they like what the Democratic Party stands for and represents.
UCmeNdc
Dec 2020
#203
Miguelito, the problem with that is that there are 70 million Americans that we need to win over to
Nitram
Dec 2020
#246
I'm not suggesting we forget the past. I'm suggesting we should forgive along with trust and verify,
Nitram
Dec 2020
#272
Forgiveness must be earned. The first step to being forgiven is admit you have done bad things
Miguelito Loveless
Dec 2020
#43
I honestly disagree with you. And I see the search for the pure in your posts...and can't help think
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#130
Again the arrogance is breathtaking. What makes you think you have the right to impose
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#186
I've seen a few - Chris Matthews used to correct republicans about that all the time, and....
George II
Dec 2020
#10
This has bugged me for year. Bush and Rove were the ones that shortened the name as an insult
RAB910
Dec 2020
#16
Interesting, so he knows the insults that were intended by the deliberate shortening
RAB910
Dec 2020
#84
He's focusing on this because he knows from first hand experience this is intentional disrespect.
FreepFryer
Dec 2020
#17
Another, although she hasn't been public in a long time, is Arriana Huffington....
George II
Dec 2020
#23
I've been using "republic party" for several years with people. But they're too stupid to realize.
George II
Dec 2020
#32
I, for one am happy to welcome 'defectors' and will gladly give them a period of adjustment
Siwsan
Dec 2020
#58
Like a teenager trying to piss someone off, the more we complain about it, the more they'll use it.
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2020
#62
Ignoring bad behavior will not make it go away. I have a 17 year old. I know.
SunSeeker
Dec 2020
#180
Yep. The best way to address this is to accept this reality and embrace the term.
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2020
#193
Headline: "Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announces he's registering Democrat"
George II
Dec 2020
#105
True. The party that he has, or will be joining is the Democratic Party. This is an issue....
George II
Dec 2020
#239
Exactly - it was first tried in the 1930s to differentiate between the Party and the act...
George II
Dec 2020
#94
Exactly! This is why we can't ignore it. We need to call this out every time. nt
SunSeeker
Dec 2020
#183
Well said, thanks. To use a sports analogy, Yankee fans HATED Roger Clemens when he played with....
George II
Dec 2020
#102
Yes, and Lenny Dykstra and many others. Joe Namath was despised in NY after he went to the 49ers.
George II
Dec 2020
#176
and he's speaking up. Most Democratic leaders and advisors just stay quiet like that's going to
samsingh
Dec 2020
#104
And just this morning on Morning Joe, Claire McCaskill called it the "Democrat party"
Demonaut
Dec 2020
#107
I once wrote 'democrat' party in one of my posts by accident...I am sure Clare meant nothing...I
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#131
This is my biggest bugaboo; especially when journalists write or say "Democrat Party"
OMGWTF
Dec 2020
#159
Hah! Yes indeed. I still have a mental block about that myself. I'm sure I'm wrong half the time.
George II
Dec 2020
#194
I'll never forget where he came from, but I'm more than willing to give him a chance.
BobTheSubgenius
Dec 2020
#247
The Hill has a centrist, pro-establishment bias, but it's pretty reliable on factual reporting
Bucky
Dec 2020
#279
Well, this is the comment stream I have been expecting for the last few days.
soldierant
Dec 2020
#250