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26. It's hard to trust corporations where profit comes first

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CNBC: Moderna vaccine side effect: rheumatoid arthritis [View all] SheltieLover Dec 2020 OP

rheumatoid arthritis? that is a very weird SE still_one Dec 2020 #1

Not really TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #31

That's Exactly Why, 20+ Years Ago... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #33

I have auto-immune thyroid disease TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #35

I'll Take What's Available When My Number Comes Up ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #40

Ok, take it, get R arthritis & then Supremes come back in the spring & rule Pre-Existing Captain Zero Dec 2020 #2

What is the probability of getting this side effect? Initech Dec 2020 #3

Trial had 30,000 participants, with half getting the vaccine and half the placebo Klaralven Dec 2020 #9

That's an important note PSPS Dec 2020 #14

Really, you are sure that Pfizer's is 100% safe? Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #4

No vaccine is 100% safe, beachbumbob Dec 2020 #5

Or, "no vaccine" is highly dangerous. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #24

Drinking water isn't 100% safe, lol relayerbob Dec 2020 #8

Yes, that's why beer was invented. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #25

Good One! ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #34

This relayerbob Dec 2020 #51

Rheumatoid arthritis is an auto-immune disease. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #6

Probably between a .013% or .003% chance LeftInTX Dec 2020 #38

So if a hundred million Americans get that vaccine, how many will then get RA? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #52

Several thousand, (3,000) if it is a direct cause of RA LeftInTX Dec 2020 #57

It is not diagnosed with just sed rates AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #59

Sed is the most common that would be in a routine lab LeftInTX Dec 2020 #60

Sed rate is like fever - non-specific AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #61

Paranoia doesn't help. Follow the science relayerbob Dec 2020 #7

It's hard to trust corporations where profit comes first ansible Dec 2020 #26

Every vaccine can cause side effects, and does. MineralMan Dec 2020 #10

Then there will the side effects that only show up once every 50,000 PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #54

The odds. Life is all playing the odds. MineralMan Dec 2020 #58

Very likely temporary DrToast Dec 2020 #11

I don't think there is such a thing as temporary RA. Ace Rothstein Dec 2020 #16

It has not been resolved - Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #28

Thanks for that DrToast Dec 2020 #32

One of the people who didn't want to proceed with the Pfizer vaccine cally Dec 2020 #12

Does that mean more rheumatoid arthritis ads? Renew Deal Dec 2020 #13

I recommend Turin_C3PO Dec 2020 #15

It's starting to get real kooky around here with the vaccine stuff. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #17

I'm pro-vaccine, but... Iggo Dec 2020 #49

Yes. You're right. We have a lot of pseudo experts. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #55

There are still so many unknowns with the disease and the vaccines. StarryNite Dec 2020 #18

My wife got RA like 6 weeks after we got a flurry of vaccines before going to Brazil. Ace Rothstein Dec 2020 #19

Interesting. Thanks for the info n/t Strelnikov_ Dec 2020 #22

She probably was gonna get it LeftInTX Dec 2020 #39

Here is a link to VRBPAC from yesterday Chakaconcarne Dec 2020 #20

That is helpful. Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #27

I Have MS, And... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #37

I know an incredibly large number of people with MS - Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #42

Thanks! ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #44

My church friend was in a wheelchair in less than 30 months (probably less than 6) - Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #45

Very Similar! ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #46

Agreed - Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #47

Thanks for this... LeftInTX Dec 2020 #41

What about efficacy? Chakaconcarne Dec 2020 #21

Ha! Already have RA ( and lupus and myositis and....) NightWatcher Dec 2020 #23

Could exacerbate it, talk to your doctor, maybe get an extra dose of what you take to manage RA LeftInTX Dec 2020 #30

.013% and of those only one probably developed RA which gives it .003% chance LeftInTX Dec 2020 #29

All righty then! cwydro Dec 2020 #36

Not particularly helpful Dem2 Dec 2020 #43

This about VAERS flotsam Dec 2020 #48

Fortunately, RA *is* a condition that can be treated with hydroxychloroquine . . . Journeyman Dec 2020 #50

And we sure got lots of that laying around. LisaL Dec 2020 #53

Ok, and what are the chances of side effects from covid? Calculating Dec 2020 #56