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NurseJackie

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95. Of course, the fact that members could vote by secret ballot meant...

Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:49 PM

Dec 2020

Of course, the fact that members could vote by secret ballot meant that they were able to thoughtfully and honestly consider who would is more qualified and who'd actually be a better fit, rather than making a decision that was influenced by worry about whose fans will threaten and intimidate them... or needlessly primary them, thereby wasting funds that are better spent facing their general election opponent/s.

I've heard people complaining that the process wasn't "transparent" but none of those have given any evidence that anything OTHER than a straight-up binary vote took place. There weren't any accusations of ballot-stuffing, or ineligible people voting. This wasn't a vote on legislation. So I really can't see what the big deal is regarding the objections to the secret ballot.

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AOC's Bitter Committee Seat Snub Fuels Speculation About Challenge to Schumer [View all] NurseJackie Dec 2020 OP

More... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #1

I'm sorry. But that rating just shows what a joke mediabiasfactcheck is. kcr Dec 2020 #42

I've always found them to be right on target. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #117

"Bitter committee seat feud." That's pretty ridiculous. There was no feud. Rice just got tons Squinch Dec 2020 #2

Nope, and she won't be president either. MontanaFarmer Dec 2020 #3

The Republicans love her because she is perfect R B Garr Dec 2020 #46

Just like they love Nancy Pelosi, right? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #48

Nancy never runs on defund the police and socialism. Which R B Garr Dec 2020 #52

They ran negative ads about her all throughout this campaign wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #54

AOC had 'defund the police' on her website. It was used verbatim in commercial in Ohio. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #69

You saw Nancy Pelosi in those ads too, right? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #88

And yet, here in NE Ohio, I saw more than one lawn sign that featured Pelosi as the reason to vote R Doremus Dec 2020 #107

Nancy doesn't run on socialism and defund the police, which R B Garr Dec 2020 #72

Nancy Pelosi is a very experienced PatSeg Dec 2020 #85

++++ R B Garr Dec 2020 #104

Those who actually ran on "defund the police" won wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #91

What's not complicated is to see that blue districts are R B Garr Dec 2020 #103

Members of Congress get snubbed for seats all the time. octoberlib Dec 2020 #4

I think members have gotten over it. The media and some DUers haven't, evidently. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2020 #44

Good point PatSeg Dec 2020 #87

Newsweek seems to have become quite the disinfo outlet lately. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #5

Newsweek Miguelito Loveless Dec 2020 #8

Totally JonAndKatePlusABird Dec 2020 #9

I had a sub back in the early 90s... 2naSalit Dec 2020 #10

I had a subscription a decade or so ago. They have changed hands a few times now & are now themaguffin Dec 2020 #121

When they're reduced to publishing stories about "speculation" Mariana Dec 2020 #33

It is not easy to win state-wide elections outside of the blue coccoons AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #6

Schumer did it Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #12

Schumer did it, AOC can't AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #22

He is now Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #24

But he was always a center-left progressive and not a socialist AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #27

True but Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #31

AOC could move a bit to the right as Schumer did in 98 and might win but that is her only path IMHO. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #70

NY was getting tired of Al d'Amato's antics. Schumer had an easier opponent in 1998 DFW Dec 2020 #105

AOC is well known & widely respected. PTWB Dec 2020 #28

... AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #29

A substantive response! PTWB Dec 2020 #32

It was wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #49

Gallup says Schumer and AOC rate the same bigtree Dec 2020 #35

And that tells you something...he is the minority leader and is expected to have a low approval Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #74

She is in a deep blue district. And she has not made many friends in the House if the reports are Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #71

Apparently not, considering the vote in the Steering Committee this week (46-13) George II Dec 2020 #94

Of course, the fact that members could vote by secret ballot meant... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #95

That's politics, man. PTWB Dec 2020 #99

Secret ballots allow Members to vote their consciences without recrimination on Twitter or Twitch. George II Dec 2020 #101

We will have to agree to disagree. PTWB Dec 2020 #106

Then I guess there was politicking since at least 13 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus George II Dec 2020 #108

No, there is no such requirement. PTWB Dec 2020 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #114

LOL, nonsense. If "country folk" can be convinced to accept city-slicker Donald Trump... SMC22307 Dec 2020 #50

He didn't run as a city slicker. AOC like Hillary has been damaged by the rightwing noise machine. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #77

I didn't say that he did. But this "city slicker" serial adulterer who couldn't even quote... SMC22307 Dec 2020 #80

I really love AOC. She's got guts, takes no shit from anyone and flamin lib Dec 2020 #7

Why do you think there's no "mentoring method"? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #18

Younger members, if and when they want to learn the ropes AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #30

Winning Twitter feuds is not leadership Generic Brad Dec 2020 #20

+10000000 AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #23

Chuck Schumer, as congressman, had one major accomplishment bigtree Dec 2020 #45

It would seem that when liberal senators and representatives PatSeg Dec 2020 #89

EXACTLY THIS!!! PRAGMATISM is reality based. Like I keep telling my work, Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #118

I like that PatSeg Dec 2020 #119

Yup. The Twitter feuds play right into their hands. nt R B Garr Dec 2020 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #115

New York State Democrats Progressive dog Dec 2020 #11

Really doubt she'll run against Schumer Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #13

Even if it were an open seat... she'd have a very difficult time being competitive statewide. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #15

Her district will be redrawn Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #16

It would be fun to see Jamaal Bowman against AOC in the primary AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #25

none of this is a thing. Flimsy, gossipy premises without citation or attribution bigtree Dec 2020 #14

At least they're honest enough to say the story is about "speculation" in the headline. nt. Mariana Dec 2020 #34

it's their own bigtree Dec 2020 #39

Starting early today, I see n/t Sympthsical Dec 2020 #17

It would be a big mistake to challenge Schumer. MineralMan Dec 2020 #19

who says she 'thinks' she can or will? bigtree Dec 2020 #21

I'm commenting on the story linked-to in the OP. MineralMan Dec 2020 #36

you took an uncalled for shot at AOC about her progressiveness bigtree Dec 2020 #37

No, actually, I did not take a shot at her progressiveness. MineralMan Dec 2020 #40

you said: "Not every district, even in NYC is as progressive as she thinks." bigtree Dec 2020 #41

You are, of course, welcome to chide me as you see fit. MineralMan Dec 2020 #57

from what I've seen, AOC is also pragmatic bigtree Dec 2020 #61

Gee, I wish people would stop that "Link to tweet" garbage. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #120

Then you know about Keith Ellison too wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #53

Yes, of course. I pay close attention to DFL MineralMan Dec 2020 #58

About how he won a statewide office wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #60

Maybe she'll primary Kirsten Gillibrand instead Polybius Dec 2020 #65

I'll just wait over here in the flyover and see what she does. MineralMan Dec 2020 #67

When asked if Pelosi should not be speaker and Schumer should not be Senate Democratic Leader.... George II Dec 2020 #93

well-put AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #26

+1, the chops came a lot from Bernie's campaign, R B Garr Dec 2020 #82

You are correct. Not every district is as progressive as she thinks. betsuni Dec 2020 #110

Thanks! MineralMan Dec 2020 #112

+1 R B Garr Dec 2020 #122

"Bitter"? A derogatory term usually reserved for woman, it's off-putting from the get-go. Alex4Martinez Dec 2020 #38

How could DU survive without your never-ending OPs trashing AOC? SMC22307 Dec 2020 #43

Lulz! What a ridiculous accusation. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #56

It's the truth, girlfriend. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #59

Oh, please! Spare me! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #62

Lulz! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #63

not surprising for a clickbait article bigtree Dec 2020 #64

I was poking fun and making light of the notion... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #66

AOC isn't the enemy. Hopefully you'll figure that out someday. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #68

Another ridiculous accusation. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #75

Some people wonder the same thing about every R B Garr Dec 2020 #78

You're accusing a WOMAN of posting a "misogynistic" article? REALLY? George II Dec 2020 #92

WHOA! 46 to 13 vote! I just saw that. Wow, that R B Garr Dec 2020 #51

They Just Simply Don't Trust Her Me. Dec 2020 #55

I'm from NY. She'd lose spectacularly, but she might want that. Blasphemer Dec 2020 #73

I would absolutely support AOC challenging Schumer for his seat. aidbo Dec 2020 #76

And this is why some in Congress don't trust AOC apparently. Primaries are expensive and Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #79

Your arguments haven't changed my mind. aidbo Dec 2020 #81

+1, it looks like some like the idea of wasting money R B Garr Dec 2020 #84

Some don't care what the fascists say about members of the Democratic Party. aidbo Dec 2020 #96

I implied no such thing. But no doubt the ads I described in my post helped Trump win Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #98

Getting elected is the priority. Thank goodness Biden R B Garr Dec 2020 #102

Exactly.. Biden Made it Clear that he di NOT Cha Dec 2020 #116

I would too. George II Dec 2020 #90

By the way, even though it was a secret ballot, we know that at least half of the members.... George II Dec 2020 #83

Put another way, House progressives control almost half of the Steering Committee Seats. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #86

Interesting! Cha Dec 2020 #111

OOh, thanks for that...makes it a very interesting outcome. nt R B Garr Dec 2020 #113

Like the headline yesterday, this was written to stir up internal bickering Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #97

Yep, always toxic headlines to go with the 'meh', articles... MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #100